Blanco_Diablo

WNY, originally. Who said it was ok for the government to be wasteful? That is what I was referring to when citing the military industrial complex. Eisenhower put it better than I will ever be able to: I believe we partially agree there. Halliburton, KBR, CACI, etc and I am sure scores of politicians on both sides of the fence are tied at the hip... I assume they and the government are one and the same. Camp Lejeune was meant to be an example of something worthy of being angry over. I fail to see how any of this indicts unions. Last I heard they were investigating an internal USMC cover-up. Or were you saying unions were responsible for the poisoned water? It's not about past administrations as the current regime has just as many issues. "For a price" which happens to be multiple times what U.S. soldiers make. A bit unfair to the troops... and Halliburton/KBR have some poison-water/toxic fume issues of their own. Just brought it up since everyone is so outraged at how the safety of the troops is being affected in the original report posted in this thread. So, me being angry about what happened to soldiers at Lejeune from the 50s-1987 and what may have been done to you (assuming you were there at that time), makes you mad at me? Where's the logic in that? I am ignorant to what exactly? Did unions poison the water? Sorry to have personally offended you with the Lejeune reference, but I do sincerely hope you were not there during those years in question and suffer no ill effects from your time there. As Bills fans we suffer enough! The point was, what do unions have to do with any of this, there are bigger issues, within government and elsewhere to be angry about. Especially since this one crew of f-ups will be fired soon, although I am glad they were exposed as their actions were deplorable! Who said I was ignoring waste in government? Just figured that was a bit off-topic for this thread. Where-as this defense industry factory had me think about other issues specifically in the defense realm. Revenue collection, so we are talking taxes and welfare now? This conversation is about to go way off topic and drag on for months. I really don't feel like spending all that time going back and forth on a web forum with neither of us changing the other's mind. My original response was to point out that unions had nothing to do with the acts of those workers, seems like a reach to make that connection. However, the company may want to actually follow-through with the drug-testing they claim to randomly do. I agree that there is just as much corruption in government as anywhere. Just as a business may fail, if not propped up by "corporate" welfare, governments who fail to answer to the populace will also eventually give way to new leadership.

You work for a excellent company then, wish there were more of those still operating in America. Not a fan of blaming unions for the actions of a handful of workers, who are apparently being punished/released for their actions. Not sure how you could watch this and blame unions, they didn't lobby for alcohol and drugs in the workplace. If anything blame the company... they are a part of the military industrial complex, so it's not exactly shocking that they would be slack creating vital parts/armour for the troops... ever heard of Halliburton? How about the water at Camp Lejeune? Now there's something worth being mad about! There is a ton of waste, fraud and abuse everywhere, and I would not be shocked if the guys in suits and ties running these companies are doing much more heinous things, and on the taxpayer's dime. BTW, this "news" story was unprofessional in their approach... cheesy hip hop sounds, interviewer using his best "ebonics" slang. The workers deserved to be exposed, but this piece is pretty ridiculous.

http://www.aflcio.org/issues/legislativealert/stateissues/work/ I don't see the appeal of working in a "Right to Work" state. You guys like working for less and having no collective bargaining rights? What am I missing?

Interesting article, rings pretty true.

Go Ducks!!!

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Boise's were clean, nice update for them. They have only recently made a name for themselves nationally in football and have some room to create an impression with their look. Seems like most Boise fans love them. Maryland's on the other hand were pointless, not even well designed... painful to watch really.

Just saw on twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/nfldraftupdate " nfldraftupdate Dion Caputi There's a suspicion around the league that the #Cardinals won't be willing to offer any more than a 5th rd pick for #Bills WR Lee Evans." 5 minutes ago " nfldraftupdate Dion Caputi :Theres been a report that #Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome has been making calls; Baltimore seems the front-runner for #Bills WR Lee Evans right now" 2 minutes ago

Loving the rituals, keep 'em flowing. Jauronimo, that was classic! Does anything else happen in the stadium now? Songs/chants at kickoff. Charging buffalos on big screen? People still shoot off apple/potato cannons in the parking lot?

Just trying to think of all the things that make the Bills stand out from other teams. What makes our game day experience unique? Been a while since I lived in WNY so curious if there is anything new that has become part of the culture. A few thoughts to kick it off: • Shout Song • 12th Man (enough love to put us on the wall)

Not surprised... a lot of college coaches have told their players to stop using twitter. This is nothing new.

The VSR-4 is archaic... barely a comparison to those newer models. Hard to believe that many NFL level players still wear that model. The Revo Speed is 10 times more comfortable and looks fast/tough.

Famous artist + limited edition work = money. There will always be a rich collector willing to pay big. It's all about name recognition.

Was hoping for red end zones, but blue will work

Interesting read, love our picks this year! But no mention of our seventh round grab... can't wait to see him after a year or two on an NFL training regimen! Thanks for the link.

Bair was a bigger force on the Ducks D anyway, could be a great UDFA pick-up

Roethlisberger

My only question is why these ultra-rich guys seem to get a friend with a needle and some pen ink to do their tats. Get what you want, it's your skin, but why not get it done well? Weird shading, jagged outlines, just kind of odd. Ever see some of Merriman's tats up close? Same thing. To each their own, GO BILLS!

White helmets are a done deal.

A sparkle, shoot, that Ohio State lid is straight up glittered! So yeah, there are definitely sparkles in football. Almost all college team helmets are that way, pros as well.

For me, red helmets are the Bills. White is fine for throwbacks, but not loving the hybrid late 70's early 80's look. What is the nostalgia there, two playoff appearances in 10-11 years? Then again I was in first grade when the red helmets debuted so they are pretty much all I have known as a fan. Was mad when the red end zone went away too. I will welcome new uniforms, because what we have had has been horrible... just wish they had waited a year for the new on-field apparel contract to kick in.

These jerseys are for 2011 aren't they? Same logic would apply though.

2006 Haloti Ngata 2007 Marshawn Lynch 2008 Leodis McKelvin 2009a Brian Orakpo or Oher 2009b Michael Oher (if we could trade up and didn't pick earlier), Evander Hood (if we chose Oher already) 2010 Wanted us to trade up for Okung or down for Bulaga

Weird that they would redesign on the last year of the Reebok contract... why not wait 'til 2012 when the have lighter weight, better fitting uniforms and just start fresh?

The red lines are for the blood a horned frog squirts from it's eyes when threatened...