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Yuck. So non-descript.
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5 minutes ago, Limeaid said:
Neglected to mention because it does not support candidate A:
Has three years experience in current offense system.
Has three years experience in working with current offense,
Specific experience is a factor which needs to be considered.
Do we know the Bills are keeping the exact same offensive system? Do we know if Dorsey wants to add or subtract to/from Daboll’s system or implement something different altogether with his stamp on it? What if the other candidates have run or been exposed to the same concepts the Bills have been running? What if the Bills want to change schemes?
Dorsey isn’t necessarily a layup. If they keep him, cool. But the other candidates might have system knowledge too. They just haven’t used it in Buffalo.
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3 hours ago, reddogblitz said:
I posted 5 or 6 examples, one from this thread and 4 or 5 from the Tee thread. You'll have to ask them why.
I apologize for not being clear. My question wasn’t meant to be literal. It was a rhetorical question; I should just make my meaning plain: the assumptions and angst about the rule, in many cases, not all, but many, isn’t righteous.
It’s a dismissive view of candidates no matter their qualifications and a concern that they might get something they haven’t earned, thus taking something away from others who are supposedly, “more qualified.”
Tee Martin is the perfect illustration. Many couldn’t believe he’s getting an interview. Yet he has extensive experience Ken Dorsey doesn’t. Many who complained about Martin want Dorsey to be the new OC while dismissing Martin down to Rooney rule as if he has less qualifications. He’s been an OC before. Dorsey hasn’t. Martin has been a passing game coordinator at several stops as well. Dorsey just earned that duty for the first time this past season. And yet...So, who’s assuming and why is about what’s in the hearts of those particular people.
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6 hours ago, JohnNord said:
These are terrible candidates. Edgar Bennett was garbage in GB
Daboll was Terrible in previous stops too. This is a different time and a different situation.
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2 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:
Here's one for example:
But is it really a racist thing? Teams are required by rule to do so.
Again who is making the assumption and why? In a general sense. Say the Bills interview several non-white candidates; which one is the Rooney rule candidate in that case?
Two points:
One, the hierarchies in the NFL aren’t the most open minded, so while the Rooney rule might not be optimal it’s not a bad thing to make the powers that be talk to coaches they previously would have overlooked, for no other reason than they aren’t used to hiring people who look like them for certain positions.
Two, the subtext of the assumption is the candidates interviewed under the Rooney rule are not qualified. Not true. They are men who have worked their way up in the profession like any other coach. Most of this board wants Dorsey to be the OC; because Allen likes him for the position and continuity.
Dorsey has never called a play as an OC in college or the NFL. Yet in another thread some folks are losing their minds that the Bills would interview Tee Martin for the job; a coach who has called plays as an OC in a Power 5 conference. He might not be ready for the job or he might be ready, but he has more experience at calling plays than Dorsey.
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5 hours ago, reddogblitz said:
The Rooney Rule I assume was started with good intentions.
But I hate to see now that whenever a minority coach is interviewed the assumption is he was interviewed to check the rooney box. See above.
Look at our DC. He gets interviewed ever year but hasn't landed a job in 15 years. We even interviewed him when we hired Coach Gailey for that purpose. We travelled to him and talked about 15 minutes so we could say we did. It was obvious.
I'm sure some good has come out of it but it seems to me minority coaches are being used in the process.
Who is making that assumption and why?
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12 hours ago, FFadpecr said:12 hours ago, FFadpecr said:
Because the reports say so. You have nothing, I at least have something.
SNY.tv's Ralph Vacchiano reports Giants head coach Brian Daboll is "very high" on Daniel Jones.
Vacchiano cited sources who said Daboll and new Giants general manager Joe Schoen told team ownership that the team could win with Jones under center. The team has stunted Jones' growth and potential at every turn. Jason Garrett's bland, predictable offense never put Jones in position to succeed, and the Giants' schematic and organizational dysfunction under Joe Judge did the quarterback no favors. As Giants owner John Mara put it: “We’ve done everything possible to screw this kid up.” A mobile QB with a serviceably strong throwing arm, Jones probably doesn't have the ceiling of Josh Allen -- who Daboll developed in Buffalo -- but has a hint of upside in a more inventive offensive system that plays to his strengths.
https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player-news
No one is "pretending", you fool. It has already been reported, genius. From Rotoworld this morning:
SNY.tv's Ralph Vacchiano reports Giants head coach Brian Daboll is "very high" on Daniel Jones.
Vacchiano cited sources who said Daboll and new Giants general manager Joe Schoen told team ownership that the team could win with Jones under center. The team has stunted Jones' growth and potential at every turn. Jason Garrett's bland, predictable offense never put Jones in position to succeed, and the Giants' schematic and organizational dysfunction under Joe Judge did the quarterback no favors. As Giants owner John Mara put it: “We’ve done everything possible to screw this kid up.” A mobile QB with a serviceably strong throwing arm, Jones probably doesn't have the ceiling of Josh Allen -- who Daboll developed in Buffalo -- but has a hint of upside in a more inventive offensive system that plays to his strengths.
https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player-news
"irony"
How is my opinion not backed up by anything?
Literally a report just came out this morning on Rotoworld. Open mouth, insert foot.
SNY.tv's Ralph Vacchiano reports Giants head coach Brian Daboll is "very high" on Daniel Jones.
Vacchiano cited sources who said Daboll and new Giants general manager Joe Schoen told team ownership that the team could win with Jones under center. The team has stunted Jones' growth and potential at every turn. Jason Garrett's bland, predictable offense never put Jones in position to succeed, and the Giants' schematic and organizational dysfunction under Joe Judge did the quarterback no favors. As Giants owner John Mara put it: “We’ve done everything possible to screw this kid up.” A mobile QB with a serviceably strong throwing arm, Jones probably doesn't have the ceiling of Josh Allen -- who Daboll developed in Buffalo -- but has a hint of upside in a more inventive offensive system that plays to his strengths.
That report came out this morning. When I addressed you there was no “report” offered from you that I saw.
I also stated that Daboll might like Jones, but there could be other reasons he took the job outside of liking Daniel Jones. I hate to break this to you, that can still be the case even with the “report” you cite. It’s a three dimensional world we live in. Daniel Jones is there so Daboll’s not going to talk down on him. Let’s see what their QB room looks like at the start of camp, then we’ll know how much he actually “likes” him.
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33 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:
Great person but we need a more aggressive thinking DC and if Sean is not allowing him to coach then that to is a problem
Frazier’s defensive principles are McDermott’s defensive principles. They believe in getting a rush with the front 4 which allows for the back 7 to sit in the zones and clog up throwing lanes. They don’t believe in blitzing because it leaves the back 7 vulnerable. A different DC would probably be similar because the head coach believes in that style.
As opposed to wishing for a change in coaching philosophy wish for more impactful pass rushing from anyone not named Ed Oliver.
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Ignore skill positions at your own peril.
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6 hours ago, chongli said:
Thanks for doing this long evaluation. I hope Williams would work out for Buffalo, but for some reason I am having flashbacks of Willis McGahee, lol. Who knows?
Not the same at all. McGahee’s injury involved other ligaments outside of his ACL.
@GunnerBillgreat minds think alike. I advocated for the Bills to take Williams or Wilson in another thread.
I think Wilson will go before Olave or London though.
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1 hour ago, FFadpecr said:
What irony?
Everything points to Daboll liking Daniel Jones.
Not 1 single thing points to Daboll not liking Daniel Jones.
What points to you believing Daboll likes Jones? He might like the Giants owners/organizational structure. He might like GM Joe Schoen. He might like that the Giants have two picks in the top 10. None of that has to do with Jones.
Daboll might like Jones too, but there are other reasons he might have taken the job in spite of Daniel Jones presence.
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6 hours ago, Doc said:
Actually, going with Daboll would be Bienemy'ing him. Staying in Buffalo means he's the man on offense.
Again, it's just one assistant coach choosing to leave for the same position with another team. More than one...you have something.
Yeah, I don’t disagree that’s what happens w/Giants. But Allen is built up now. He might view that as diminishing returns for how the NFL world will see him.
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5 hours ago, Mango said:
Right, if it were as simple as Dorsey leaving for a promotion. Fine.But I am working under the assumption that the Bills offered the same promotion to work with one of the very best offenses in the NFL. And then Dorsey chose a bad Giants team with negative cap space and your QB is Daniel Jones in what is rumored to be a bad QB class.
Why are you assuming that? By rule they have to interview at least one other candidate as do the Giants. And QB coach to OC would be a promotion.
it could be Dorsey thinks he will get more of a challenge trying to turn the Giants around as opposed to being Bienemie’d in Buffalo. It could be he’s grown close to Daboll and wants to go help him. It could be he’d like a change and going to the NJ/NY metro area would be fun or his wife wants to go there. It could be he’s taking the most money. It could be a million reasons why and none are a negative against McD or the Bills.
If Dorsey is the guy, great. If he leaves the Bills won’t lack for good options wanting to work with 17. 17 ain’t going anywhere and that’s the person who ultimately matters.
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16 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:
A 1st round WR is a waste if he isn’t a better receiving threat than Knox or Davis. If he’s on par with them then we wasted a 1st round pick on a part time player. Drafting a WR in the 1st round only makes sense if he’s a can’t miss Randy Moss type guy.
If that WR offers a different skill then he could be a better receiving threat for what the Bills need. The two WR’s I mentioned can score from anywhere with their speed and athleticism. Gabriel and Knox aren’t those type of players as good as they are downfield.
There’s no such thing as can’t miss so that’s no argument, but the two WR’s I mentioned have a great chance to be impactful. Have you watched either play??
Again, #3 is not a PT player in the Bills offense.
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10 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:
The #3 target in this offense is Knox. There’s a reason the emergence of Knox caused the regression of Beasley. 1st round pick should be #1 pass rusher, or #2 CB, or #3 interior lineman or #4 homerun threat RB…..in that order. We can find a #3/slot WR on the cheap anywhere, why waste a 1st round pick on one?
Sleeper 1st round pick…….stud do it all LB.
Beasley’s physical skill caused a regression in Beasley. Don’t be one of these people who think any WR will do. 17 took off when he had real talent around him. Picking one who can do what others in the WR room don’t do is not a waste; it’s intelligent.
Took 2 pass rushers last year in round 1 and 2 and another in round 2 the year before that.
The Bills apparently like their ILB sorry to tell you. The IOL and CB available at 25 might not be as good at their position as the two WR’s I mentioned are at theirs, both of whom are TD from anywhere players with polished route running skills. A RB who is that player might not exist in round 1 this year (hint hint). I’m all for a CB, DT or OL too. We’ll see what happens.
16 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Plus Beane already said he expects to have Cole back. He’s only gone if there is a trade that make sense.Expects and will are two different words. Bease could easily be gone. Especially if they need money for a different position.
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10 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
I’d love that if the right guy is there… I’m doubtful. I think they value CB, OL, even DL before WR unfortunately.
Possibly. But they value value too. Have to keep 17’s shelf stocked.
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Just now, streetkings01 said:
Who spends a 1st round pick on a #3 or #4 WR? That’s not smart drafting.
A #3 for the Bills is a starter in their offense. And the answer is a team that could use high end talent to go along with their high end QB.
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1 hour ago, streetkings01 said:
Gabe is our #2
I never said he wasn’t. However, don’t the Bills run 3 and 4 receiver sets?
Bease isn’t guaranteed to come back. McKenzie is a FA. Need a guy who can take short passes the distance. The receivers I mentioned can do that. And they’re contracts will just be coming up when Diggs probable extension is up. Stay ready you don’t have to get ready. Keep Allen’s weapons stocked. Period.
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4 minutes ago, whorlnut said:
I can’t see that happening at all…I’d love it, but I don’t think it will happen…
If Jameson Williams or Garrett Wilson are there I can definitely see it. Either fits that speed McD and Beane were talking about in their pressers.
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Ehhhh...😏
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Just now, whorlnut said:
Kinda what I’m afraid of. This is what you get when you hire a defensive minded HC.
Beane and McD are on the same page. That D needed reinforcements. Now it’s about doubling down on Allen. I’d bet money we see a WR in round 1 this year.
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2 hours ago, whorlnut said:
Great…so more high picks on defense and wait until the mid to late rounds to help the offense. I really don’t know what to say…🙄
They want to be the Packers?🤷🏾♂️
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9 hours ago, VaMilBill said:
Motor is a solid second string level back. But he is not a premier guy. Sure, if he gets opportunities he’s going to put up some solid stats. Problem is he isn’t a home run hitter. He simply doesn’t have the speed to break away (from even LBs) not the ability to make people miss.
Simply said, Motor doesn’t scare opposing defenses.
I have no doubt we can do better than Motor. Although, he’s great to have as a change of pace back IMO.
He makes people miss a lot. But I agree we can get a more physically imposing back to pair him with. Moss is too inconsistent for my taste. Pollard from Dallas would be a great FA pick up, if he wasn’t overly expensive. He brings speed, runs with physicality and can catch. I look at him as a weapon moreso than just a RB.
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5 hours ago, Nextmanup said:
The sort of OC McDermott might hire if Daboll leaves scares me to death.
He's a defensive guy and just so conservative.
I don’t think he’s “so” conservative anymore. In spots he can be, like most coaches, but he went for a lot of 4th downs this year as opposed to previous years, specifically in reaction to the AFC Championship game lessons from last year.
I’m not worried about it. They’ll get an OC with a good resume and next year folks will love his playcalls when we win and want him fired when we lose or don’t win pretty enough. Rinse and repeat.
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Jim Harbaugh expected to take Dolphins job over Minnesota. (Update) Mike McDaniel now is the possible front runner for Miami
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