Rob's House

I haven't read the whole thread, because frankly it sounds stupid, but are the loons afraid President Trump may challenge the election results a la Gore, or do they actually think he'll stage a military coup if Biden were named President?

WHOSE HOUSE? ROB'S HOUSE!!!

FIFY

DR's biggest flaw is his desire to tell you who and what you are as he grows annoyed by nonsensical, dishonest responses to legitimate arguments. I can't recall ever seeing you post anything that was both honest and substantive. Maybe you have and I missed it, but your contribution to the board is a net negative. If you are a legit poster I'd ask that you make an effort to do better. The board is better when lefties participate, but your spam posts don't promote honest discussion.

I'm starting to think this guy is a paid shill. I can't imagine why someone would pay him to spam an obscure message board with bot quality posts, but I can't think of a better explanation. I don't think it's possible he's just a left wing Bills fan who likes to talk politics. Can you imagine being so interested in these topics that you spend all day every day posting about them, but never once having an interesting thought about any of them? Not buying it.

I wish I could set this to the Team America theme song.

Why does this thread exist?

Sooo... If you don't expect black folks speak in proper English you're a racist, but if you do expect black folks to speak proper English you are also a racist. The struggle is real ✊?

Not even close. I've never heard him say anything that indicated more than a surface level understanding of any subject.

It's relative to the league you play in. Compared to the average Joe he's an intelligent guy. Among those with advanced degrees he's fairly mediocre. Among ivy league scholars he's kind of a dunce.

"Austere childcare provider" ???

Since the greatest source of white privilege seems to come from disparities in police shootings, I thought I'd share some really simple statistics. In 2017 blacks accounted for 27.2% of all arrests nationwide. In 2017 blacks accounted for 22.7% of fatal police shootings. That year: A total of 8,162,849 arrests were made. A total of 984 people were killed by police. That means 1 person was killed by police for every 8,296 arrested. A total of 2,221,697 blacks were arrested A total of 224 blacks were killed by police 1 black person was killed by police for every 9,918 arrested. This is the great crisis.

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https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-left-is-now-the-right

If I could only follow one person on Twitter it might be Matt Walsh. He always says what I think more concisely than I can.

I appreciate your response. I'll address your points in order. 1. I think if Trayvon Martin were white, Zimmerman would never have been charged and no one outside of Seminole County would have ever heard about it. The way this case was reported was as dishonest as anything I can recall seeing up to that point in time. It demonstrates how the media is effectively coordinated to advance a narrative to create racial tension. Had the story been accurately reported at the outset it would have picked up little to no traction, so we were told a fairy tale of an innocent little boy skipping and frolicking with a skittles and some tea when he was hunted down and executed for being black. A far more accurate description would have been as follows: An Hispanic civilian called the police on a 17 year old male who he believed was acting suspicious. When the suspect noticed him he fled. While on the phone with police, the civilian briefly ran after him to see where he was going before giving up. The suspect then returned and confronted the man as he was returning to his car. A scuffle ensued in which the suspect broke the man's nose, drove him to the ground, and began slamming his head into the concrete sidewalk. At that point, the man lying helplessly on his back being attacked, withdrew a firearm he was legally carrying, and shot his attacker. You may quibble with the interpretations and framing, but that is essentially what happened. This is confirmed by independent eye-witness testimony, forensic reports, Zimmerman's injuries, and the area where the confrontation occurred. You may still take issue with Zimmerman's behavior, but this cannot honestly be described as an innocent boy being hunted down and executed for being black. But that was the narrative. When it fell apart they grasped at straws, like the fact that Zimmerman didn't instantly stop when the dispatcher told him he didn't need him to ascertain Martin's whereabouts. The implication is that if you call the cops on a black guy for acting suspicious he's entitled to beat you unmercifully and you're obligated to take it. The fact that every picture we were shown of Martin was when he was 12 years old further shows the blatant attempt to misrepresent the facts and evoke emotion. If you understand cognitive bias, you know that once that story is implanted in the mind of the viewer, the belief sustains even after the factual basis upon which it was formed is discredited. That was the purpose. This was not about justice for Trayvon, nor was it about exposing systemic racism. It was about creating the false perception that black boys are hunted for sport without fear of consequences. When people expose the truth, the truth speaks for itself. If they have to lie and misrepresent what happened, there is always a nefarious purpose. 2. This goes to the heart of the problem. Just as the Trayvon Martin story was misrepresented, so much of history is equally misrepresented. I think most people know the general history of things, but again, so much of what is now being peddled is so blatantly dishonest that it is hard to tell the fact from the fiction. The true story of this history is compelling enough without having to sensationalize it, but that's what they do. You can tell the story of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, and the civil rights movement without resorting to dishonesty, but they're not satisfied with the truth. They have to massage it. It's important to contemplate why they would do that. The same is true of "systemic racism." Aside from the fact that the term is so nebulous that it is hard to tell what it even means, the case that is made in the media is so sensationalized and one-sided that we are arguably less informed for learning it than if we knew nothing of it at all. It's like Jefferson said, he who reads only newspapers is less educated than he who reads nothing at all. Think of all the people you know of different races that aren't racist, and don't see the systemic racism we're told is pervasive. The fact that they don't see it shouldn't be automatically discounted. One may wonder why something that is so prevalent can so easily elude the perception of so many. It certainly doesn't make them racist to have skepticism regarding an assertion they have not seen evidence for. All too often the only evidence we are provided are these misrepresented stories, like Trayvon Martin, and re-tellings of stories from the distant past, which attempt to peer pressure or guilt us into believing something in lieu of providing evidence. The fact that questioning the doctrine is labelled as racist is cause for more skepticism, not less. People who have evidence readily provide it, they don't demonize those who ask to see it before accepting a premise on faith. The average white guy has little tolerance for injustice against people of any race. But how can I stand against something I cannot see? It's like when my son wants me to help him fight off the invisible villains that are attacking his imaginary fort. I don't know what or who I'm supposed to be fighting. I'm not even saying that all the racism you speak of is imaginary, but racism isn't some abstract force that exists in the ether. It is necessarily something that must be felt and/or imposed by man. If I do not know who the racists are or how they are imposing their racism upon others, I can no more help to stem its effects than I can the imaginary villains. This is why I appreciate the handful of people such as yourself who are willing to have an open and honest dialogue, because if these things really are as prevalent as we are told I would like to do what I can to address them, but I've seen little to nothing in the media that is helpful on this front, and I've been paying attention. Rather, I've seen an abundance of condescension and demonization of anyone who questions this narrative. That isn't helpful. Why can't they provide me with substantive answers? All of this leads me to believe that racism towards minorities in America is not a major obstacle any longer. I'm sure there are racist people, as there will always be racist people of all colors until the end of time, but I think that is the minority, and most of the racism that does exist is wildly overstated. If it were so pervasive I think we'd hear more concrete, present-day evidence. When I see the same people pushing this narrative telling me that supporting President Trump renders one a racist, I have a hard time believing anything else they say. I also think the growing acceptance of anti-white racism is both disturbing and counter-productive. It makes people such as myself less inclined to consider the plight of others when I'm worried about the future of my own children. When roughly half of black America has a favorable opinion of Louis Farrakhan, who openly views the white race as evil, inferior people, it does not endear me to the cause. Why should I be all that concerned about people who hate me? I understand this isn't all black people, but the majority of those who are most aggressive about this seem to be the same ones who support Farrakhan. Unlike President Trump, with Farrakhan you don't have to go back over 40+ years and twist and contort to find a way to argue he's racist. His plain words given their plain meaning, that have been amazingly consistent for decades, are unambiguously racist in a very overt way. I don't hold you responsible for the beliefs of others who may look like you, but it's hard for me to get too sanctimonious about allegations of covert racism when the same people claiming I have an affirmative duty to address a phenomenon I'm scarcely aware of are endorsing messages of hatred against me and mine when I've never done anything to them. I appreciate the handful of black folks who actually speak out against this sentiment, but the Nick Cannon incident is a perfect example of how prevalent the anti-white sentiment is. Forgetting the fact that he got a minor slap on the wrist for saying white people were evil, subhuman scum, countless high-profile black folks came out in support of him, and defended him for stating "the truth." I can think of only a handful who spoke out against him. He was allowed back into the mainstream without even acknowledging those statements (he only apologized for the anti-Semitic portion). Nick Cannon himself is irrelevant, but this goes deeper than just his opinion, or even the groundswell of support he got for his overt racism. We're constantly told that "systemic racism" is based on a power structure, and that white people have all the power, but this flies in the face of that theory. There is no monolithic group of "white people." You have more power and protections in this society than I do, and Nick Cannon has far more than I could ever hope to have. No white man could say anything similar to what he did and remain in a highly-visible position. If I posted the same on social media about black people I would have a hard time finding work, my children would be mercilessly bullied and harassed, and I would be doxxed rendering my home unsafe. You would have no such concerns. Just as you do not want to see your children marginalized for their race, I do not want that for mine either. And I'm not laying this entirely on the black community because there are a lot of black folks that do not subscribe to this anti-white sentiment, and there are an astounding number of white people who mysteriously do (I suppose they think they'll always get a woke pass). I don't see this as black v. white. I see it as left v. right, and the left is exploiting the race issue because it needs conflict to gain power. In fact, I blame white leftists more than any black figures, because I believe they are the ones that are doing everything in their power to convince the black community that white people are their enemy, which is absolutely preposterous. The fact that half the government and almost all of corporate America are pushing this agenda with everything they have should be the first tell. No one actually believes that Amazon, Google, Netflix, Facebook, Comcast, etc., or the Democrat party genuinely gives a runny ***** about the poor, oppressed, and downtrodden, much less minorities. But they're all backing this in full force. Everyone should think real long and hard about why that is. I guarantee it's not for your benefit, nor mine. They are the rich and powerful who for all intents and purposes control the government and stand to benefit from a strong ruling class because they are part of that class. They are the ones pushing the narrative, just as they produced this "documentary." Their goal is not to inform, but to inflame passions and create conflict and strife. They frame the narrative to be viewed retrospectively through an ethnocentric lens looking back from the vantage point of today, rather than going back 500 years and looking forward from the lens of that time. The fact that we have an integrated society with as much acceptance of those of different race, religion, and ethnicity is fairly amazing. But we take all progress for granted. We compare our current situation to our imagined ideal of perfection, rather than comparing it to all societies throughout history, and all other countries that currently exist in the world. Making perfection the goal to work towards is fine, but it is not a realistic expectation, nor is it wise to demonize all that falls short of that ideal. Essentially, those pushing this narrative want to discount all the good, focus only on the bad, and as you said, throw the baby out with the bath water. To think about it a different way, look at you and me. There is no rational reason why we should have any serious conflict. We know each other only through a message board discussing our football team, and our only friction may be over who we think should start on Sunday. Your success in life does not detrimentally affect me and vice versa. In fact, it is to our mutual benefit that each other succeed. The only exception to that is where we are both in direct competition within our professional markets, but even in that case neither is more or less a threat than any other competitor of any color. America is not a zero sum game where one must lose for the other to win. Rather, in the macroeconomic scheme of things, when one wins we all win. I point this out in hopes that you and others may see that we are not enemies, and anyone who tries to cast us as such is the real enemy, and one who should not be trusted. We can learn from the past and each other, and hope to better understand each other's perspectives and experiences, but we cannot browbeat another into understanding. You may force one to pretend to understand, but understanding is not born of intimidation. It is only achievable through open and honest discourse.

Nick Cannon Shows Us Who is Really Privileged By Gregory Hood "Media sometimes call white advocates or race realists “white supremacists,” “Nazis,” or something close to terrorists. Still, I’ve never met a white advocate who believes his skin color gives him magic powers. I’ve never even heard of any anyone who believes white people are “gods” or who thinks blacks only do evil. When it comes to who robs, rapes, kills, and fights, the evidence shows blacks do these things more often than whites. They are doing it especially enthusiastically right now because Black Lives Matter undermines police. Though whites are often victims, the melanin “soul” connection is certainly not strong enough to prevent black viciousness towards other blacks. Mr. Cannon said that whites are “closer to animals” because of our race. If a white person said this about blacks, his podcast would be banned and he would be deplatformed. ... Mr. Cannon hasn’t been “canceled.” He didn’t apologize to whites, nor was there pressure for him to do so. Fox is keeping him on the television program “Masked Singer.” His upcoming daytime program hasn’t been canceled, just delayed. Sean “Diddy” Combs offered him a job. “Charlamagne Tha God” defended him and spoke frankly about collective racial interests. No one should be surprised by this. Fifty percent of black voters have a favorable opinion of Louis Farrakhan. Mr. Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam are a black racial vanguard for their people. Blacks appreciate this. The mainstream media doesn’t, but mostly because Mr. Farrakhan keeps insulting Jews. If he didn’t, he would probably get the same welcome Al Sharpton does today. ... It’s OK to hate whites. Anyone can insult us and get away with it. That is because most whites are not racially conscious and do not defend those who speak for them. At the same time, whites suffer far greater penalties if they speak in defense of their race, sometimes especially at the hands of conservatives. White advocates face unprecedented deplatforming, legal persecution, and even physical attack. The mask is off."

If the "protestors" were honest.

I posted Nick Cannon's comments on Twitter, but made it about blacks, and now all my Tweets are de-boosted.

The Nick Cannon Cover-up The media has all but erased Nick Cannon's unambiguously racist statements about white people. I asked my wife if she'd heard about his situation. She hadn't so I told her to look it up. 20 minutes later, after searching Bing and Yahoo, she only knows he said blacks are the real Hebrews and that Jews control the banks and media. She has not been able to find anything about what he said about white people. EVERY article omits that part entirely. Think about why that would be. Walsh has been crushing it. https://www.dailywire.com/news/walsh-nick-cannon-just-demonstrated-that-racism-is-still-acceptable-in-america-as-long-as-its-anti-white

Oppressed minorities defend themselves against white privilege.

For the same reason we argue in favor of free speech. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Open discourse allows good ideas to push the bad ideas out. If your goal is totalitarianism the greatest threat to your mission is a well informed populace.

Kind of OT, but this is for the liberals (*^*&%^$^#who keeps obnoxiously asking where the good guy with the gun was when one of his idols shoots an innocent person. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/not-making-national-headlines-black-mass-shooter-kills-two-random-men-indiana-gunned-ccw-holder-video/

HA! I FU¢KING CALLED IT!