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You tell me Mike Williams has to sit because you need an extra TE for the running game then run for a grand total of 68 yards with a three yard ave- maybe you should fix your OG situation instead, cut Lee Smith and use Pears as an extra blocking TE.

Spiller, Pears, and EJ, to St Louis for Greg Robinson

No, now we can never defeat ISIS because there is no ISIS to defeat,- ISI to ISIS is a meaningful change because it reflects fact that they controlled territory in Syria which they hadn't previously - just as an example picture the U.S. fed up with Pakistan double dealing, we decide to destabilize their government which we succeed at but instead of a government more friendly to the U.S. the nation is taken over by Islamic extremists who transfer nuclear weapons to IS who now change their name to Atomic Jihad - would I be wrong to say that U.S. meddling in Pakistan created Atomic Jihad.

But lets look at the quotes that started this in the first place Joe the six pack "because you have no real arguments thats why you cut and paste long winded articles from neocon &@^@!!'s and post images. The reason ISIS was formed is because we and our "allies" destablized Syria ... what do you think the second "S" stands for? wake up clown, it was MORE intervention that caused the problem. And your solution? You guess it: more intervention" Tom the miserable Prick "ISIS predates any Western involvement in Syria by at least six years. I don't know about your world, but in the reality the rest of us live in, cause generally precedes effect. You really are an idiot." Tom is technically wrong because ISIS didn't exist until 2013 to say they existed before that because ISI and Jabhat Al-Nusra existed before that is like saying Great Britain existed before 1707 because England, Scotland, and Wales existed before 1707. Tom is also wrong because he knew Joe was talking about ISIS the context of the threat they posed but decided to use his default position of miserable Prick instead of adding anything worthwhile. While I'm here lets get to the original debate - Is Obama a loser for not pushing harder to stay in Iraq? I'll concede that we probably wouldn't have the ISIL mess we have now but the other side of that is 60 dead 600 wounded and 60 billion dollars each year and that is with a fairly small footprint, staying in heavily fortified enclaves and with limited patrolling, heavier engagement more blood and treasure.

I never asserted that, but groups do change, they can merge with or absorb other groups, they can split apart and form other groups, they can wax and wain, their goals evolve The JTJ originally started out with tens of members, they did bombings and assassinations and their goal was the overthrow of kingdom of Jordan ISIL has tens of thousands of members with some estimates of 100,000+ ,use military actions and mass killings, with the goal of taking, holding and governing territory in accordance to their interpretation of Islamic law. Without the Iraq war JTJ doesn't morph into AQI , without the utter failure of the al-Maliki government it is unlikely that their ranks are swelled by Sunni militias and without the destabilization of both Libya and Syria it is unlikely we have ISIL in it's current form.

actions vs goals

Well,since they didn't change from ISI to ISIL (which we call ISIS since most English speakers wouldn't know what the !@#$ Levant is) until 2013 when their ranks were swelled with foreign fighters and they controlled territory in both Iraq and Syria - I'd have to say Joe is right and Tommy boy is a simpleton, a dunce and a miserable prick- now Tom the miserable facile prick that he is might say But ISIL is just an evolution of ISI which is an evolution ot AQI which is an Evolution of JTJ and you can trace most of this all the way to the Soviet-Afghanistan conflict but these organizations change in both form, function and mission statement as they go along therefore it is nonsense to say ISIL is just JTJ, or AQI, or ISI - our actions in Afghanistan helped create JTJ, our actions in Iraq helped JTJ evolve into AQI and ISI and our actions in Libya and Syria turned ISI into ISIL- The only problem I have with Joe is that "Western involvement" leaves players like Saudi Arabia, Israel, Qatar, Turkey and Pakistan off the hook but there is little doubt that America and their frienemies are great at creating monsters that they have to fight later.

So would you trade EJ Manuel for Greg Robinson?

If he keeps,his nose clean and keeps working I think he has a future in the NFL - look at Alex Smith and Kyle Orton two sometimes favorites here, Smith was miserable for 4 seasons, then was mediocre for two seasons before he finally had a good season,- Kyle Orton got to mediocre his 4th season, then had a couple pretty good seasons with Denver but has only played in 13 games since 2010

Operation: Money Pit

Operation: Enduring war profits Operation : At least our bombs are smart Operation : I sell ISIL Operation: Hot and Sunni today but tomorrow looks like Shiite

If you are a smaller guy who excels because of quickness and mobility then an injury that robs you of those things is a career killer .

EJ runs better than you do math - .06 not .004

We drafted EJ because the fans demanded a QB and Buddy said he wasn't leaving until he got one - so even though it was a miserable year to draft a QB we were bound and determined to get one and there were only two semi-good choices, Geno Smith who was most NFL ready and EJ who had the most long term upside- EJ was a guy I liked as a developmental player a 3rd round type who would sit a couple of years but that's the poison we picked, I would have waited to this year to grab a QB but truth be told this year wasn't very stellar for QBs either.

It's the maddening thing about the Bills, they want to be a run first team but made a very weak effort to upgrade the interior of the line, seriously if you want to be a run first team don't you need OGs that can drive block and pull reasonable well?

yeah Bob, don't you know Jesus rode an ass which made that ass holy and people like Jim are very proud to display their Ass-holiness, it's their religion Bob- stop hating.

Obama can't win http://theweek.com/article/index/264151/obamas-greatest-failure-the-rapidly-falling-deficit

Attack in Texas? well at least they aren't planning an attack in America yet.

I saw Cutler post game interview, he looked like a part-time Vegas stand up comedian and a full-time alcoholic.

Kamar Aiken wr 4-30 Ravens

Story of the game is not sexy but is Bills improved depth - I remember a couple of Bills team in this past 14 year drought which had decent starters but couldn't survive injury because talent drop off was so severe, this years Bills had a starter out in the secondary and was down three at LB and powered through- Good depth not sexy but vital.

The solution to ISIS is easy, estrogen in their water supply- they're not afraid of death but lactating man-boobs will scare the hell out of them.

Yes I heard you have a published paper on physics which must mean you know a lot about self-publishing

Give Mich time, that's a revelation you come to after 44,500 posts or so