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There really weren't any signs Von was about to fall off.......he was playing great prior to the injury. Not just the bulk sacks........he was on pace for 13-15 sacks..........but his overall play was no different than the late 2010's.

Be honest now..........were you avoiding all Bills media last week because the team lost? Just now catching up? Because your last statement is downright idiotic. Allen was roundly criticized for his mental mistakes in the Patriots game. They dumbed the Tampa Bay gameplan down for him this week. That's what playing uptempo and no-huddle does. It prevents the defense from substituting. Getting to the LOS with 22-23 seconds on the play clock allows the OC to be in the QB headset telling the QB what HE is seeing from above the defense until the 15 second mark when it shuts off..........or getting time to the line that early buys time for the QB to use motion multiple times to identify what the defense is trying to do. It's not an endorsement of Allen's mental preparedness.

Good day for NFL parity........lotta' bad teams won. Bad day for teams/fans/media hoping for some big names to be moved. Probably see the NFL push the trade deadline back a week or two in coming years to be a week past midseason like MLB does.........just too hard for some bad teams to pull the trigger on their fanbase when they are 3-5.

Yes, the implication was obvious..........and then Dorsey promptly called the game the way Diggs suggested.........making the game much less complicated for Allen.

Let me help you understand how to use the pro-football-reference table. Click on the statistical category at the top of the table and it re-ranks the players for that statistic. Yards per game.............Gabe Davis tied for 40th-41st with Darren Waller. That is OBVIOUSLY where it comes from. What's pertinent is per game stats...........because the Bills have played 1 more game than 20 teams and 2 more games than 11 teams. In a 6-8 game sample size 1-2 less games is 12.5%-25% less opportunity than Bills players have had to put up bulk stats. Yes it significantly impacts where a player ranks in bulk stats and we won't have an even read on that until the last teams have their bye week and every TEAM has played the same amount of games. Understand? Did you really think that Gabe has been playing as well as Garrett Wilson because he has some bulk stats that are very similar? The Jets have only played 6 games. How can you still be confused about this and still keep bringing up "league rank" in bulk stat numbers?

It's too early to tell so it doesn't even interest me to speculate who exactly will reach the SB but I do have some feelings on things I do expect: 1) Lamar will get injured and de-rail the Ravens season. He always does. If I had to throw a dart at the board for which game I'd say the Browns in 2 weeks. 2) Mahomes will also get a notable late season or playoff injury and the physical and emotional wear and tear of playing 20 game seasons every year will catch up with him at some point when you least expect it...........and since repeating is extremely tough I would expect that to happen this year. 3) Also worth noting to the people who presume the Chiefs will win the AFC that Buffalo and Cinci have beaten KC 5 of the last 7 meetings combined and the two times KC won were at the end of the game or in OT. 4) The Bills haven't looked good but I do expect them to get healthier by the end of the season.........I think Milano and Jones will both be back for the playoffs and just like when NE was dominating there are still going to be outlier years where other teams win and it feels due. 5) The trade deadline could matter significantly if teams are willing to move some difference makers. It gave the 49ers a shot in the arm getting McCaffrey even if it didn't vastly improve them on paper. Also made possible the Rams run a couple years ago. Didn't make a big impact initially but getting Von Miller and OBJ set the Rams up for playoff success when they both rounded into form late.

Pointing out that the ENTIRE LEAGUE had played 12.5%-25% less football than the Bills isn't cherry picking...........it renders your entire point ridiculous. As to "when the week is over......he'll still be in that range"..........do you not understand that more than 1/3 of the league will STILL not have played 8 games like the Bills when this game week is over? Still? Seriously? I gave you the stat........37th in yards per game for a player listed as a WR this season.......and 40th overall behind 3 TE who are top 2 options for their team. So 8th.....or the very back of top 1/4 of the league in yards per game among top 2 and 3 options on teams. Now factor in that he's playing with a top 3 QB who has played every game and is he not more of a middle of the league producer at WR2 in a league where 3 of the top 4 current Vegas SB favorites have WR1 quality players at WR2 and the one who does not is the team that has reached the last 5 AFCCG's(usually STACKED at WR)? The point isn't that Gabe isn't a good enough WR2 for some also-ran or in-the-hunt-still at Thanksgiving team. He is.........especially for one of the many teams with much-deeper WR corps in general. But there are A LOT of teams with more talented WR2 than the Bills..........guys who could flourish with Josh Allen at QB.........and having a stud WR2 has been as great an indicator as any as to which teams will actually reach a SB in the past 6 seasons and a very big indicator for many years before that. People point to Juju Smith-Schuster with KC last year as some kind of outlier but his efficiency stats AND bulk stats both showed him to be a back end WR1. Gabe's bulk stats looked ok for a WR2 but his drops and catch % were simply brutal. This year Gabe has been more efficient and dropped less but been less explosive(hence 110 less yards thru the first 8 he has played).........but targeting him has still resulted in 5 turnovers, by my count(4 INT's and his fumble) and I might be undercounting the pics.

Shakir had a terrible camp and preseason. After his issues with drops when given those chances to play last season.........including that game changing drop in the WC game.........it seems to have taken him a while to earn back chances.

I just don't suffer fools. I had already explained to you that the Bills had played 8 games and everyone else had played 6 or 7............so clearly your "league ranks" for Gabe are not at all in perspective. Your response was more league ranks for Gabe. So after I've told you TWICE that the Bills are the only team to have played 8 games.........your response is then that you are "aware" that only 2 teams have played 8 games. You are the definition of NOT aware. Do better. This isn't rocket science.

Wow. You are really dense. Again.......the Bills are the only NFL team that has played 8 games. 11 teams have only played 6 games...........the rest have only played 7.

Because I noted that @BillsFanForever19 was mis-using bulk stats? Gabe is an excellent scheme fit as a 3rd or 4th option with a QB like Josh Allen who can take advantage of the things he does well. Which isn't a lot.

"Great" hands is dropping around 2%. Hopkins had several season under 2% on like 150+ targets. That was great. Shakir would have to catch his next 63 straight to get to 2% for his career(not counting the playoff drop). Shakir had a higher drop % than Gabe Davis last regular season/playoffs........which is to say VERY far from great. Shakir also had a bunch of egregious drops in preseason which is why some media speculated he might get cut. So it's fair to say he is "far" from having "great" hands. The eye test should also tell you that he's not a confident hands catcher. He tried to body catch the best pass of this season from Josh Allen and it bounced off his pads.......wasn't considered a drop but you want your receivers to catch those passes. He body caught half his catches Thursday night. Still fair to say that his "hands" are questionable.

You don't judge a second receiving option who has a top 3 QB throwing him the ball by their bulk stats alone...........we've been thru this.........Davis also had 5 TD receptions and had 110 more receiving yards thru his first 8 games last season. And fwiw........Gabe is 37th in WR receiving yardage per game right now.......not 28th. You are aware that the Bills are the only team in the NFL who has played 8 games, right? Most have only played 7 and a couple only 6.

I know Williams was a big draft crush here but he was a one year wonder in college who showed GREAT speed but no other real skill. He wasn't a Jerry Jeudy who dazzled with route running for a couple seasons before entering the draft. Williams and Jeudy both had deep WR rooms to muscle for position in and Jeudy proved to be the alpha in his room..........Williams had to transfer to get PT because he wasn't skilled enough to win PT at Ohio State. And now look at them both and put that in perspective. Elam has elite level physical talent too.

He's been awful this season and was coming off an ACL tear last year and a stupidity suspension this year. 20% drop rate over the 2 seasons. He's been worse than Elam, that's for sure.

Elam for Jameson Williams or Terrace Marshall would probably be more like it. Swap of early round talents who aren't fitting in where they are but also have 2 years left on their rookie deal(Marshall) or a year and half left before 5th year option has to be decided on(Williams/Elam) would save Beane some face, initially at least.

I haven't re-watched the game yet but one of the aspects of the very quick pass game seemed to be that guys like Davis and Shakir were able to body-catch the ball without the coverage tight to them yet. Gabe has BAD hands........we know this. Shakir seems to struggle to track deeper throws and has to leave his feet to collect himself on those so, yeah, he's a short area receiver. He shows quick, soft hands in practice/warmups on short throws.......his problem in the short area seems to just be concentration drops(really struggled with them in preseason). Being able to cradle the ball into the arms without a defender there to knock the ball out(like with Knox 4th down drop last week) can make shaky handed receivers of all varieties look much better.

It was pretty loud and it impacted the Bucs, no question. I didn't take a play off. We could be much, much louder though.

I believe it. As I've said in other places, the defense is compromised in several areas and even if they swung trades for several players the chance that they all fit in and played well is not good. The offensive side of the ball is not far from being at a point where they could consistently put up 35 points per game. One player. Personally, I think that player is a high quality playmaking WR1B or WR2. But I can see them thinking they can put Henry in the backfield and not have to substitute for long stretches.........play up tempo 11 personnel and spread the field and get the ball out quick to achieve success thru the air(as versus Tampa)........and blast light boxes with the 250# Henry and be more successful in short yardage and goal line runs. And the latter is important with Harris gone and Murray looking like he's hit a wall in recent weeks. It makes sense on paper but executing without making yourself vulnerable to TFL's running Henry out of shotgun requires more unpredictability than we have been seeing to avoid TFL's thru run blitz.........and the whole thing also assumes that Bills receivers will consistently execute in the pass game like they did Monday(which is doubtful, IMO). I will say that Henry is no worse running out of shotgun than James Cook........Henry still gets to top speed pretty quick.

Overheard in the crowd last night.......... (Don't shoot the messenger)

"Flash" Allen and "Zoltan" Kincaid.........saviors of the universe

"Accidental face mask contact"? Phillips grabbed on and yanked him to the ground by it. That is going to get called every time. Phillips just sucks dude. Don't ruin a post of solid takes with a nonsensical homerism. The refs were typical........they made a lot of the usual simp calls for the team down 2 scores in the second half. That's the way it usually goes but the Phillips penalty was egregious stupidity by a player who is a master of it.

Why don't you tell us? What is the % of successful defensive plays following a defensive timeout versus the normal non-timeout called play in that situation. There are situations where I think you call a timeout on defense but I think McDermott has turned this into a net negative with his over-use. Tyrod Taylor and Baker Mayfield aren't Tom Brady. I want to keep the pressure on them with this defensive system that has been in place since 2017, not give them time to get composed and make the smart play to Mike Evans for a TD.

2 of the 3......both 4th down timeouts......were bad. Calling timeout instead of taking the 5 yard delay of game penalty at midfield prior to the punt and then somehow not telling Haack to drop the punt at the 10 yard line was just brain-dead. Hoping to get a lucky bounce again and pin them at the 2 yard line isn't worth the risk of giving them the ball at the 20. They had fumbled a prior punt there as well. Just bad situational football. But yes.........getting rid of Jordan Phillips would be addition by subtraction. The dumbest player on the field whenever he steps on it. Damn near drew a 15 yard late hit on a ball carrier early in the second half as well.

Well ya' know they've only been running this defensive system since 2017, it's still pretty new...........