Malazan

You mentioned this. This is what you said. If you want to play with straw men of 'I worked a lot and didn't include information' and 'I meant more than I said', that is your business. I will deal with the actual word in type. You have specific mention of the 90s and 60-70s. I'm not sure why you have such angst that I then refer a time period you mentioned. You specifically referenced a player from a time period that concussion information was poor at best. I responded to that. Let's focus on this one player and era since that was the one mentioned.

or just remove it all together and end the farce and let players stop using it in negotiations at all.

That is a ridiculous notion that is means nothing. It goes to show that there was little understanding of the long term impact by the people directly researching the issue at the time. No offense, but you seem to have come across one piece of information and latched onto it. If the NFL was hiding all this in depth information on long term effects of concussions from the 60s then we as a culture have much greater questions to ask why they were hiding information that was 30-40 years ahead of its time.

I am glad we are getting an early start on this so we can et more complaining in. Every team in our division got better except for us!!

The players have a role here as well. The history of players is that they choose more money over safety or long term care

Ryan Leaf has led a much funnier life than Manning.

Just move on, original poster was so oblivious that he din't know Chan designs the offense. Time to get back to the sock thread.

It should be

The epic threads just keep coming

This is an epic sock thread in the making.

So a running back has the best season ever, but loses his leg and is now a free agent. Time to give him a blockbuster deal.

http://youtu.be/WrjwaqZfjIY Past performance is a factor in what you're paid because of what the team believes you can contribute in the 'future'. It is not a reason to be paid.

That quote is great and if he shows and does it. He definitely deserves a 3 year/9-10 million extension.

I have the same concerns about Fitz I have about many of our players...can he stay healthy and wtf do we do if he gets hurt again?

His name is Floyd though...so like Floyd Flows whenever he touches the ball would be killer commentary for the announcers

There's talk about everything. Just like there is a post for every single free agents that exists on this board.

I have no sympathy for the players. They have rejected safety advances again and again (like the better helmets) because it affects their performance and thus their ability to get paid. Look at the 'bounty' thin happening. The NFLPA isn't protecting the players who were targetted, they're protecting the guys who tried to injure other players. I have a hard time believing the the players back then were 'less greedy', but just didn't have the opportunity to be so.

it's sports media...of course they're making stuff up/making giant leaps

There's benefits and drawbacks for both, but I can definitely say, I love the decreased selection times.

Their fans do. That doesn't mean the team does.

He's going to want a big extension. Pass. Wait, wait.....I've heard of him before! Let's do it!

You guys have to get off the weed...and I only mean that about Mike Adams. Replace Weed with something else trifling like wearing an orange shirt. It doesn't matter that it is ridiculous. It was clearly defined to him (and I'm sure his agent made acutely aware of it and could have provided information and help with finding a different color shirt), but he ignored the edict to not wear an orange shirt and wore it anyway. He was given an instruction by his future employer, "Don't show up wearing an orange shirt" and he couldn't follow it.

You completely missed the point. It wasn't a surprise he was going to be tested (and I'm sure his agent warned him in more specific detail). Regardless of the substance he tested positive for, he knew he couldn't test positive. Football is a game of discipline. If he lacks the ability to stop smoking pot for a month, there is a problem that is not at all related to smoking pot. No one really cares he smoked pot. Think of it as something else entirely: He was told not to wear orange. He wore orange.

I think he's more upfront than most GMs. If you look at the things he's said in the past and his actions, they tend to make sense. That is not the norm in the NFL and people try to read more deeply into the meanings because they think there is something 'hidden' behind the words.

Various feelings on the legality of Marijuana are irrelevant (I'm in favor of legalizing it. There's no solid research showing it's worse than alchohol or a 'gateway' drug). It is currently illegal. The NFL does not like players doing illegal things regardless. It's a 'hot button' issue. The concern this makes is that he was: 1. Arrogant that the rules didn't apply to him. 2. Stupid that he didn't think he'd get caught 3. Lacks self control to not smoke weed long enough for it to be out of his system by the time of the combine It's like a company you're interviewing with that is planning to offer you millions tells you, "Don't wear an orange tie" and you wear an orange tie and they made it very clear that they literally meant what they said.