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Now that you have defended Peters, allow me to defend both myself and the organization. I'll start with myself. Nowhere in my original post did I question his talent. Of course he was the best left tackle on this team, if he wasn't he wouldn't have been starting. As for the timing of the thread, the article I read on TwoBillsDrive was posted this morning. I read it and reacted to it. If it had been written a month ago, I would have posted it then. Maybe you should ask the folks at TBD not to post links to articles that you feel are outside of the acceptable timeframe for discussion of the topic. Barring that, if the topic of the thread does not interest you, you should refrain from reading it, let alone posting in its regard. It baffles me when people complain about the topic of one thread on a message board instead of ignoring it when it p!sses them off. With regard to the organization, and more to the point of my original post, when an insolent, insubordinate prima donna who has already proven in actions AND words that he is willing to dog it on the field comes to you and says he is done at the end of his contract you are left with no choice. If he takes the field do you think he would have given a sh-- if Edwards had gotten smeared. Talented, yes. A good teammate, hardly. A pouting liability, definitely. I give them credit for having the guts to make the move.

True. It was meant as a heads up that I was well aware that the topic was discussed ad nauseum, and despite that I was willing to "poke a skunk" if you will.

On the point of complexity, as some have alluded to, is the fact that we have an entirely new offensive line with 2 rookies. If the players aren't grasping the complex nature of the offense, then of course you have to simplify it. It speaks to Schonert being a systems coach, instead of being able to adapt his style to players. If you want to build a complex offense around young players, you better have a stellar defense and some time to implement it incrementally, NEITHER of which he had, as is turns out.

Happened to be posted on TwoBillsDrive this morning, so I read it. Thought it was an interesting insight into his line of thinking, and a reasonable explanation for why he was traded so I posted it.

There was no way Schouman was getting cut, as its been widely publicized that he is the TE that TE is the most comfortable with at this point. Fine is still young, and would have been picked up by someone else if cut. Nelson is obvious. Stupar will more than likely end up on the practice squad. Voila, we didn't even have to choose, because we still have all four (most likely.)

"Andy Reid didn't need to call me the best left tackle in the league because I've been proving that for the last 4-5 years." The best part of that is the genius ought to check his math, since he's only been a starting left tackle since 2006!

Thought this quote from Peters in this morning's Philadelphia Inquirer was somewhat telling: "I was shocked," Peters said. "I had no clue. I had just told Buffalo I was going to play two more years there and I was done with them. And then my agent [Eugene Parker] called." http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/57578607.html Can't imagine why we got rid of him when he was so enthused to be here and would grace us with his presence for the life of his contract and no more. Between this and his comments about pondering his contract in the middle of games, I hope he blows out his knee on the Eagles first offensive play from scrimmage. Not that I hold a grudge, or anything.

Firing Schonert 10 days before the season was a desperation move by a coach who knows he's in real danger of losing his job. He has no time to let another OC teach a very young offense an entirely new system. He would be fired before they ever learned it. The only chance he has is to work with what's already in place and get rid of the desenting voice (based on the interview Schonert gave after his firing.) In addition, who from the outside is going to want to come in for 4 games before the coaching housecleaning that is likely on the horizon?

They're now stating that it was Victoria Jackson of SNL in an effort to entertain the fans, and that she is bringing Toonces the driving cat in as the OC.

You got your record messed up. The wins go on the left.

I agree with bills44, I'm fairly certain even the rats have abandoned this garbage barge by now.

Probably looking to keep some younger guys with promise as opposed to older stop-gap players. May also mean that both Ellis and Bryan make it, and we rely more on our defense than an offense that is unlikely to get much help from a few fringe players. Looking long term season, instead of short term first 3 games.

To those who have said they feel blase' about the start of the season, I envy you the lack of interest. Personally, I'm P*SS#D. Count me among those who were hoping the offense looked so bad because they were using preseason to work on the things they did poorly and running a base scheme. While I agree the move needed to be made, and is likely a harbinger of a mid-season coaching change, I'm DISGUSTED with the fact that this SHOULD have been avoided by not retaining this staff in the first place. This, to me, is an admission that this is a wasted season BEFORE IT EVEN STARTS!!! If this is the case, they should write off the season RIGHT NOW, clean house, and start anew, before other teams start the same process and the coaching pool thins. They've already sold a record number of season tickets, so it won't hurt them at the gate. Write it off now, and it gives a new staff essentially an entire season of evaluation because there will be no expectations. We'd rejoice with the 2-3 wins, and get drunk during the losses, but there might be optimism for next season. I feel like the moves are inevitable... why drive that point home further with a lame duck staff and waste more time in the process!

This is not meant as an excuse for our offensive futility. There are clearly problems. Magnifying these problems, however, is the fact that the Bills have played some pretty good defenses thus far. In 12 games, the defenses we've faced have given up a total of 10 points in the first quarter of those games. The Bills ineptitude has certainly padded that, but those are only four of the 12 quarters. The Steelers, Packers, and Bears combined have given up a total of 25 points in the first halves that they've played. That averages out to just over 6 points a game for those defenses if they were to keep that pace. I'm only using the first halves, as that likely covers first and second string for the preseason games. Hopefully seeing some stout defenses up front wake them up and allow them to find a way of fixing things early on. I know it's not much, but it is something to consider before stepping off of the ledge.

Personally, I think the reason they didn't draft a LT this year was because they felt they had potential on the roster already in Bell (and honestly, all you get from the draft is potential) and he would be manning the blind side at some point in the future. I think the Walker move was meant to be temporary, as he did an adequate job filling in last year. When the time is right, Walker moves back to RT and they figure out the rest of the pieces by how they're playing at the time. I don't think he was ever meant to be the long term solution at LT, and his apparent ambivalence about the move to me makes this scenario more likely.

Somehow I doubt a better feed would make this game look better...

Edwards numbers for the games you initially referred to add up to an average QB rating of 102.5 with 8 TDs vs 2 INTs, and an average completion percentage of 70.2. He had two fumbles recovered by the opponent. This was admittedly against what turned out to be poor teams, but hardly sloppy. I would take those numbers averaged out for an entire season.