Magox

Of course the seeds have been in motion. But what has transpired over the past 2 weeks is at a much faster speed. It's happening.

I literally have knots in my stomach. I wake up with deep sighs. Things are moving very fast DR. Very fast. I can sense the landscape shifting in real time. There are a number of metrics, anecdotal incidents, polling data etc that are flashing red warning signs that in the course of the past two weeks, the country has changed. They control academia, newsrooms, big tech, athletes, holly wood and corporate boardrooms. I'm not sure what can be done. Understandably, no one wants to get in the way of the mob. Doing so imperils your career.

What in the holy $##@@ is going on?

This is getting very scary. I don't want to tell anyone how to react or think, but this is becoming prevalent within our society. Things are moving fast.

Have I ever told you guys, that the modern day left is intellectually bankrupt?

WTF is happening? Things are moving fast and the woke mob is winning

Oh FFS

They’re doing just fine.

Who wants to tell him?

Arizona hospitalizations are plummeting Texas ICU admissions is falling drastically, Florida is barely nudging higher from very sustainable levels that are nowhere near at being stressed. North Carolina is still at a low level. It appears you are buying into the panic porn. It’s always the same grifters attempting to paint a certain narrative

Depends on who you ask, the mass protests coupled with the contradictory statements and actions from the governors and health experts were either the best or worst things that could have happened. For the weary and skeptics, the debate officially ended. For those that truly wanted to remain more cautious, their hopes went up in flames. People are willing to take that tiny risk to get back to normalcy. There is no going back to full compliance of stringent social distancing.

The public was already beginning to break the stay at home orders weeks ago, the public was weary as it was. But once the Governors began to play politics by valuing certain people’s rights over others and then many of the public health officials turned out to be hacks, it ended. The public will not accept these frauds to tell them to return back to the hell that were the stay at home orders. It’s over, there is no return and if some governors attempt to do so they will be defied. Ive only said this probably like 10 different times in 10 different ways. You don’t agree with it? Fine. But it’s not something that I’m making up, I see their weariness and skepticism. They won’t tolerate it.

I will just leave this out there

@GG even though I’m pretty much done speaking about this topic with any sort of detail or nuance simply because I think it’s a settled issue with the public and the return to more widespread stringent social distancing measures are over, another reason why hospitalizations are up is because hospitals are opening up throughout the state. More people feel comfortable getting out and more are being admitted as a result of it. Which also explains the lower ICU rates.

This is a very good point. It's a matter of relative risk and the precautions you take within that risk group. Somewhere along the line you draw a distinction. You don't have a uniformed policy if the facts on the ground don't call for it.

No. I've posted about this topic ad nauseum on this forum. What this means is that a different more targeted approach would have been better than this. As a result of the draconian lock downs, there are lots of negative effects as well. Suicides way up, cancer screenings way down, about a 50% reduction in reported heart attacks/strokes, spousal and child abuse way up, alcohol and drug use way up, depression and anxiety way up not to mention all the economic devastation. So considering that the average profile of the person who dies from this virus is age 81 with 2.7 comorbidites (which means they were near the end of their lives), the best overall strategy not just for the economy but for overall public health would have been to protect the nursing homes and people most vulnerable, frontline workers while the rest of society practiced basic social distancing guidelines without the lock downs and stringent social distancing measures.

Not at all. Explain

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I highly advise for everyone who has time to listen to that audio. It's rather lengthy but it's a harrowing account of how chaotic Chicago was during that weekend. These Democratic Aldermans were frightened beyond belief. They were begging for more police and the national guard. They were openly weeping on the call. Even one of the Aldermans asked Mayor Lightfoot "Why are we not shooting them"? Can you believe that? It got vulgar, they were arguing with each other, telling each other they were "full of *****." "Go ***** yourself" . It shows you that they totally lost control and that there were thousands of 911 phone calls that were going unheeded. Just crazy.

Holy ***** is right! You have to listen to the leaked audio of Mayor Lightfoot of Chicago and the city council members. Totally blows up the narrative that the media desperately tries to portray of “largely peaceful”

It's over. The public will not accept a lock down. As I've said for over a month now, take care of the elderly, frontline workers, exercise some basic safety measures and plow forward. Most Americans are wise enough to know that the risks are tiny for the great majority of the populace and they aren't going to continue destroying their way of living and livelihood over something that has this tiny of a death rate for working class folks. We're willing to take that risk but what we aren't willing to do is get conned by the elite technocratic health experts and ideological tyrannical elected politicians who are willing to step on your rights but not for those who support their preferred causes. It's a farce!

Uhh There is a reason for that.

Say whu? It's from WHO, I don't trust anything they have to say.

This is getting out of hand. This for me is actually beginning to hit home. My wife and I love that our daughter's small school has two police officers there at all times. The idea that they could be removed is crazy.

That’s comforting