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This seems important You can follow the twitter thread here as well. There is a lot more to it than what I posted above. https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/05/10/and-now-for-the-dynamite-undercover-hubers-ruthless-thread-shines-a-light-on-1-reason-why-adam-sack-of-schiff-is-panicking/ It clearly shows that Schiff lied about the Basis of the FISA warrant
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There should be a national dialogue in getting back to work
Magox replied to Magox's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Naaa, they should pack up and leave. It’s clear that their are many elements of the California government that view corporate entities such as Tesla as a force for evil. He should go somewhere that will accept them with open arms and embrace their innovation. California and New York have too many loons with outsized voices and influence and these businesses are at risk if they continue to do business in these states. Even though Bernie didn’t win the nomination, he did win the minds and hearts of progressives. It will only get worse moving forward. -
There should be a national dialogue in getting back to work
Magox replied to Magox's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Indeed and they should do everything they can to protect themselves and the local, state and federal governments should provide all the resources necessary so that they are better guarded. -
There should be a national dialogue in getting back to work
Magox replied to Magox's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
And this from an assembly woman of California -
There should be a national dialogue in getting back to work
Magox replied to Magox's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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There should be a national dialogue in getting back to work
Magox replied to Magox's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I know in my county in Florida, it was buzzing. Its going to be interesting to see what happens as confidence is restored and more potential infections occur. Will the warm and humid weather help significantly mitigate the spread? Can we protect the seniors in the nursing homes? Can we possibly just have more asymptomatic infections where it’s mainly people under 70 getting infected with relatively low hospitalizations? This next 6 weeks is going to be very interesting to see. The missing element to me in this public debate if we can even call it that is that this is a novel coronavirus and the sooner we can just accept that something ***** happened to us and that there will be more deaths no matter what we do. And that the only logical outcome is to get life back to a more normalized state attempting to protect those on the frontlines and that are most vulnerable and accept that we are where we are. -
The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19
Magox replied to Hedge's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
There is no way to get an accurate or even remotely accurate gauge of prevalency throughout the country in varying communities with 10k. Unless they are focusing on a handful of communities and even then that would only be a couple thousand per community which would still not represent a large antibody study for each of those communities. But if we are talking about for all 50 states, then it’s a laughably small study. Most states wouldn’t even have 200 total tests and that wouldn’t even be enough to get a study just for their state capitol, nevermind the rest of the state. What they should begin doing is aim for a study of about 350k. Where they form joint partnerships with local governments to conduct them with government funding. They should reach out to every single county in the country and request that they conduct Serology tests of .1% of their counties population. That would give you approximately 350k tests which is .1% of the overall population. This would give you a county by county view of prevalency throughout the country ranging from urban areas to suburban and rural. And since each county/local government already have their own health infrastructure in place, they could find the volunteers following the NIAID’s protocol and conduct the serology test with federal funding. This 10k study more than anything will serve a purpose not so much for searching for community prevalency nearly as much as overall infection rate. To gauge an overall infection rate, 10k is a good sample size. But not for what they are claiming it’s for. Does that make sense? -
The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19
Magox replied to Hedge's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Your argument would be persuasive if we were looking into one community. But it’s not. This is the stated goal From the link: ————————- The results will help illuminate the extent to which the novel coronavirus has spread undetected in the United States and provide insights into which communities and populations are most affected. ————————————- For the stated goal what you just brought up is incorrect. There is no way that you can give any stat on the accuracy unless you know the specifics of How many tests were conducted in each particular area. And since we aren’t talking about one particular area but as what the link implies, prevalency throughout, it’s a tiny study. Its a start and hopefully similar to the NY one they conduct it on a rolling basis to continue to add on to the numbers. -
The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19
Magox replied to Hedge's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
It would be refreshing to have a serious national debate where we could have honest and substantive dialogue where we looked at both sides of the ledger. The benefits and consequences of the shut downs and some of the draconian social distancing measures. Instead, we have a media that on one day blames conservative politicians for opening up too fast because they don’t care about people and the elderly and on the next day blame the president with blaring headlines that we had 20 million job losses and we are entering into a depression. The media is a broken institution. -
The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19
Magox replied to Hedge's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
What you said has very little to do with what I said. I’m not saying it’s not hard, I didn’t even come close to implying that. What I said is that it’s a tiny study for what it said is it’s stated purposes which is to gauge prevalency THROUGHOUT the country. It will provide some insight but I wouldn’t read too much into it as the sample size is tiny. -
The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19
Magox replied to Hedge's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Your fooling yourself if you think this is a “massive” study. We are talking about a national study. Their stated goal is to gauge prevalency throughout the country. You cannot do that effectively with only 10k tests. New York alone already has conducted one over 10k alone. Other studies in counties have conducted them in the thousands. We are talking about nationwide. This study will give some insight but not an accurate representation of nationwide state by state prevalency. In order to get a good gauge they will need to go county by county with at least .1% of the population. 10k national study is .003% of the population. If you think that is a “massive” study, then You and I have a far different interpretation of the word massive. -
The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19
Magox replied to Hedge's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
You missed the point entirely aside from the data. Its about a double standard and pointing it out with facts. It’s about how the media covers Cuomo in the most glowing of terms despite his numerous missteps as opposed to “But Florida Beaches” relentless negative coverage of the Republican Trump supporting DeSantis who has handled this crisis as well as anyone despite all the teeth gnashing from the media. It’s about not being a punching bag and letting your enemies (which is the press when it comes to conservative politicians) and anyone who says otherwise is either being dishonest or naive, not allowing the media to punch you without punching them back in the jaw with the facts. This lack of kumbaya sentiment that you speak of ended the day that the media weaponized this virus. -
The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19
Magox replied to Hedge's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I swear I was going to post this earlier this morning. I have a friend on FB who posted an article from Monday from CNN that’s headline was “Georgia opens up economy despite single highest day of infections” And since it was CNN I had to fact check it. That GA. Department of health link you just posted says it all. If you scroll down you can see the daily confirmed infections. Despite their testing going up, they have had 4 straight days of 300 or less infections and 7 days of less than 500. Look at that trend line. Impressive as hell. Georgia I thought may had been setting themselves up for failure not following White House guidelines but those numbers show that they are probably on the verge of opening up to the next level. As the data continues to pour in my view has changed from slowly opening up to a more rapid approach. The local/state/federal government should pull out all the stops to protect those at most risk. Focus on that and those on the frontlines and let’s get this show on the road. one other point, I saw an interesting stat today. The average age of the US person who dies is 78. The average age of someone who dies of the coronavirus is 79. Just found that stat to be interesting. -
The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19
Magox replied to Hedge's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
It’s small for a national study. Very small at that -
The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19
Magox replied to Hedge's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Florida leading the way. In about a month the deaths there are going to plummet -
The Deep State War Heats Up :ph34r:
Magox replied to Deranged Rhino's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I wish Grenell was staying. -
The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19
Magox replied to Hedge's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I like the idea but 10k is a rather small sample for the country. Not sure this will get an accurate representation. -
Everything Joe Biden--Gaffes, Miscues, Touching, Songs
Magox replied to 3rdnlng's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Tara Reade interview https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=5HeZiKvOA0o -
The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19
Magox replied to Hedge's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Not necessarily. The claims were that everyone that wanted or needed a test weren’t getting them. Keep in mind that the vast majority of tests that are being provided are for symptomatic people who potentially have the virus in high prevalency areas. That still stands today. Generally, Whoever is showing symptoms jump to the front of line to get tested. Meaning symptomatic people who potentially have the virus are more likely to be tested than asymptomatic people. In high infection areas where prevalency is higher the share of people taking tests are those that are symptomatic. Areas that are less hard hit the share of people taking tests trend towards being asymptomatic. There is a correlation between the number of symptomatic suspected carriers that are taking tests to the prevalency of the virus in that particular area. So in cases such as Florida for instance where the total infections are actually going down in such a large state and with the increased testing, you are seeing the rate decline because you there are more people with milder signs and asymptomatic people which is diluting the rate. That is a sign of low prevalency. Whereas New York or NJ especially a couple weeks ago, with the limited testing they had they had to largely test symptomatic people who had the hallmark symptoms first and the infection rates were incredibly high at over 50% positive testing. Indicating extremely high prevalency in the area. o kayy -
The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19
Magox replied to Hedge's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
That’s funny because last I checked I’ve been the only one talking about it in any sort of a meaningful way. Where you pretty much have been giving the standard “we need more testing”. I could get that sort of insight on CNN -
The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19
Magox replied to Hedge's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I have been harping on this for a couple weeks. This is the best gauge we have for gauging prevalency of the Virus. The deaths are a lagging indicator and have been stubbornly high and a lot of that is due to newly discovered deaths in homes and nursing homes and the counting of the “probables”. But the deaths will go down because the actual amount of people who are positive are most likely going down along with the hospitalizations. My guess is pretty soon we will see it decline in a meaningful way pretty soon unless of course they keep finding more deaths in these homes.