filthymcnasty08

[*]Great teams, even superbowl winners, over the course of a season, come away with one or two games that everyone agrees they didn't deserve....they win them ugly, by the skin of their teeth...and sometimes there's luck involved. [*]Many teams we consider to be great, could have had games, seasons, playoff clinches and history changed drastically with a momentum destroying call that decided a game. A game that their fans would call ugly, their defense flopped, offense was flat....but they pulled it together and their QB stepped up or their D came up with a stop/turnover. One bad call...could equal a total 180. OUR "great team" was most-definitely on the way to doing so driving with the lead. They played ugly but still found a way to be positioned for the win late in the game. That one play and subsequent horrific call took that away. Yes we played ugly, the D was awful but I think fans have every reason to be pissed about the call. We were about to do "just enough" for the win....and if you don't think that "just enough" got many great teams through a game or two in a season, think again. This was our total stinker game that we were going to pull out by the skin of our teeth and go home 4-0. I hope we do what's necessary to not put ourselves in that position for Philly.

I live in the NYC area and rumor has it that Osi plays today at AZ. They were speculating it could be a showcase game for a pre-deadline trade. I believe,as many do on this board, that a big time pass rush may get us playoff-bound+++. Yes he's older and coming off knee surgery....but having watched a lot of giants games, he's a big play Machine . You know where I'm going....would you? How much? Is he a 3-4 player? Etc.

Dareus with breakout game and big play today....merriman 2 sacks Bills 23 Cincy 13

at a nickname...for the offense...not that there has to be one. most points in the NFL, #3 in yardage...2 come from behind wins of 18+ points...playing at a level where they can score on anyone at anytime. I know we all know how we got these guys but, looking at it as a group, especially to an outsider....this is most impressive and has to be unprecedented. I love how they wear it too! If there are to be nicknames at all....they deserve a nickname that relates all of this. Fitz - 7th rounder/cast-off from the Bungles Freddie - Undrafted D3 Stevie - 7th rounder Nelson - Undrafted Chandler - waived from practice squads 3x and cut before Bills Jones - Undrafted FA D. Bell - 7th rounder Pears - Undrafted FA Urbik - Claimed off Waivers Chan - Fired as OC in the preseason from the team with the worst offense in the leage - out of pro football when hired. "The Undesirables" or "The Undesira-BILLS" "The Expendables" or "The Expenda-BILLS" love it, flame it, hate it...it's all good....just having some fun and enjoying all of this. I was a hater/doubter for sure....apology to follow.

Props to you road warriors! Blue dots in the "sea of red"......represent!!!!!

I have no problem with Jasper whatsoever, I hoped and prayed he would be that load in the middle other teams will not dare try to run at. Jury is still out and I will continue to be a fan. He's young and raw and unique...so it's up to our coaching staff to make him a pro. I hope he becomes a 2-way wrecking ball... My issue is this constant notion that is used to validate the things we do that would otherwise be considered "questionable" to put it lightly. This notion that Chan and Bud have this secret and genius plan and if you give it enough years, you'll see just what genius is....till then you cannot criticize. The "desperation" comment I made was towards our OL depth....there's nothing genius about the way that has been addressed (or not) Sorry just not a blue kool aid drinking happy horse sh-t 10-6 guy at the moment.

Total and utter sign of OL desperation.....trying to see if there's ANY value they can squeeze out of him outside of practice squad. Come on with the hidden genius of Chix suggestions already....had that been the case, they would have put him with the OL at the start of camp.

Ohhhh man....."Just give it to them".....bad memories.. If I remember correctly, that wound up costing us the division after ANOTHER bad call the next week on a Testaverde keeper gave the Jets a win in Seattle. Instead we got a road wildcard playoff game in Miami ending with the Flutie whiff inside the 5. The Jets went to the conf title game. AmI right or am I combining seasons?

THIS!!!! THIS!!!! 1000X THIS!!!!! I'm so sad that this really rings truest to me of all explanations.

Not true for the entire pre-season The starters play 3 quarters game 3-4

Time will tell indeed. But you need to give me and everyone that is upset at least this much: in today's NFL, it is (and has been proven) possible to do a complete rebuild in under 3 years. We may be a special case because we have been completely dysfunctional for so long.....BUT....this regime went backwards to 4-12 last year and they do NOT deserve a pass for another 4-12. I say this ONLY because the OL was a glaring area of concern when they came in.....and, 2 drafts and FA periods later, it remains a glaring area of concern - now more than ever. There's little if anything to feel good about on the OL...when it comes specifically to the Tackles....they have no excuses. Outside of owner-interference for a "asses in the seats/jersey sales pick"...the explanation for the Spiller thing remains a mystery to many. We can twist, turn and contort to try to explain away the bloody-awful pre-season perfomances BUT this They have that much more to prove this year.SOMETHING to get the fans excited. Otherwise this could be 1985 very soon. to the long suffering fan, until we see a true fll-tilt commitment to winning...bitching will remian our only medicine. Better to vent anger/frustration here than out in the real world!!!

Tebow - assuming a small price - would be worth it... I can see where he is the type of QB that needs the right fit for a system. Chan's offense seems to be just that. He's a very high character guy and a leader type - also what this FO is looking for. all depends on the price but this may be our turn to play the Pats role in making lemonade out of other teams "lemons"

OMG we suck!!!! We're awful. Oh wait, it's base protection scheme testing time.....whew. Soundss about right.

How would you feel if he was our guy and playing the same as he has? I for one would be ecstatic....as I am sure others would. Until the Pats stop doing it right....I'm going to credit them with doing it right.....the bastrds

This feels like a Rob Johnson/Flutie-esque meddling Ralph move: "Why am I paying this high-priced supposedly-prolific player if a cheap aquisition can outplay him. Let's see what this guy can do." All things being equal - Freddie deserves to start.

10 - Fuk up first round draft choice 20 - Draft CB 20.5 - GO TO 20 unless you see high motor smaller "speedy" project where you can project that player anywhere from DE to Safety. 30 - Do nothing in FA 40 - Pull players off other teams scrap heaps 50 - If by chance we are to groom a high cliber NFL player - do not offer them market value for their talent and hard work. 60 - Use the press to say "we tried to get this one and that one.....we tried to keep this one and that one....making the player look greedy for wanting what they deserve. 70 - Use the kind hearted and loyal fans on this page (knowing they support this team no matter what)to police bad sentiment....no matter how much the truth hurts. 80 - reap profits from the rest of the league's successes while keeping your cost base low and blaming your "small market" for your horrific mismanagement 90 - Anyone stop going to games? Threaten to move to LA. 100 - Draft CB

So we just accept no attempts at doing anything about the OL THIS year.....because this was the year of the Defense? It wasn't possible last year at draft time? This year at draft time? There's no more excuses to make my friend...this is not a front office that is committed to winning. Football 101: you win the game in the trenches. No OL: no running game/no pass protection = dead QB....waterbug 9th pick 2010 cant run without holes. the MOST pedestrian casual Bills fans knew the last 2 years that OL was of primary concern.

This blue kool aid is running a little too deep Good for Buddy raiding practice squads for OL men. Good for Buddy for making a bid for one guy in Atlanta and having no BACK UP PLAN at RT.....see! he tried! Good for Buddy for building through the draft and not addressing OL til they drafterd the Donger in round 5 last yr. You haters cry too much....I mean two pre-season games where we look like utter sh-t on offense on the back of a decade++ of futility and you're ready to throw in the towel. Pessimists! You need to give them a few more years to draft more high round CB's, ignore FA, and to turn the organization around.....I mean we have 1 above average center and 2 average guards (Levitre overrated on this board)....thats HOT! We could go all the way to 7-9 with a few more drafts and some breaks. Let the system grow roots dammit....waterbug RB's take time .....maybe we could put weight on ours and make him a Safety! Not to worry we have roscoe - lets trade him for 7 number 1's and nothing less. Lee was a bum anyway....we got a 4! Yeah! Eagles....Pats.....Steelers....PFFFFF Buddy has em all riiiiiiight where he wants em. He's got a plan......and dammit its working......just give him a few more years to really finish it up. Some of you guys have to be kidding me with the way you react to fans calling a bad team - a bad team....a bad draft pick - a bust.....and your calling a lifeless pursuit of trash bag players - a true effort at rebuilding. You can address the defense and the offense in the same offseason - just so you Buddy apologists know. I have never seen a team come out and say.....this year - Defense....NEXT year....look out....were revamping the O baby. Nor will any of us ever....but theres some on this board that explain away the non moves as if that's something that happens! WE CANT FIELD A REMOTELY COMPETITIVE OFFENSIVE LINE - WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fitz - my deepest sympathies for the absolute beating you're about to take this year.

This would have been amazing. Hindsight always 20/20....Ayers looks like a player.

-Any card carrying Bills fan has the right to be negative after the horriffic streak of bad drafts, coaches, GM's and ownership decisions since the glory days. -This is EXACTLY the place for them to vent/discuss their viewpoints regardless if anyone else deems it unworthy. -They have the right to read only if thats what they choose or post as much as they want. How exactly would that make their opinion worse than someone with 2000 posts? -I havent seen a single thread pre-draft that came close to alluding to our needing to use this draft to overhaul the D-Backfield. All the talk was front 7. Now its genius and those that do not think so are dim-wits?? -Most (if not all) of the threads and mocks included players from everyones agreed upon areas of needs(DB's way down on that list if not the bottom) ....and we had a chance to get several of them. We did not. -In the eyes of the long suffering fan: drafting DB's in the early rounds, opting not to choose the consensus best at a position for the "sleeper" that was further down on the rankings, passing on certain players we all have a feeling are going to be studs one day...for DB's...Looks and smells like same ol' same ol' -This regime has so far underwhelmed with last years draft where they spent the #9 pick on the position of least need. -I don't know of any fan base that rally's around a 4 year plan happily when all the short-term signs point to the same garbage they have lived with all along. Yet there are those that will continue to jam the square peg of this draft (rd 2-7) into the round hole of blind optimism and chastise those who just can't see it that way. Every move is brilliant and just what we wanted to do/needed. The scientists in the FO are at work and us lowly fans that do not agree with their decisions do not have enough knowledge and should be cleansed from this pristine environment of blowing positive smoke up each others a$$es. Suddenly this franchise that goes after mediocre and cheap free agents are going to get Boss or Z. Miller....or Claybo at RT. Oh yeah, simple and turnkey....get Boss....fill need. Thats the Bills. lol. I get it....there is a long term plan and a bigger picture but until that takes shape in a more defined way, the majority of Bills fans have EVERY RIGHT to remain unconvinced. Til then, a 4-12 team with the worst run D in the league, a questionnable OL that nearly got their QB killed, a need at TE and a need for a QB of the future opted not to draft the best help possible (aside from Dareus). It's the team's job to change the minds of the fans guys. Til then, those that remain unconvinced should be free to express whatever they wish. Congrats to the optimists...I hope you're right. I really do.

Fairley Peterson

He surely knows the value of quality defensive talent.

I think the answer to that is FAIRLEY obvious.

Davon House? I've heard of him!!! Get 'er done Buddy!!! lol.

I love it! What are the Bills doing with #3? QB? DL? Trade down? Why is a guaranteed mid 1st rounder like Kerrigan visiting? Why Peterson? IF a QB comes off the board #1 or #2, the Bills are going to see some desperado GM's looking to cough up a big chunk of draft picks to get the #3 spot as Cincy needs a QB at #4. The Bills are doing a great job of not telegraphing. Nobody knows for sure what theyre going to do....I really think theyre doing due diligence on all possibilities. Gives me a shred of hope for a trade down and a gutting of the team looking to get up to #3. Fairley is the only guy I want at 3.