filthymcnasty08

Cool, we can re evaluate when theyre in the post season and wer're arguing which QB to draft #1

Come on man: OL was the top need.....its a stretch to even have called it a #2 need.

Not fair to get on the fans for being negative....the last 10+ give them every reason. The coach, the FO and the players have everything to prove. If they start to show theyre on the rise, there are NO better fans that will rally around them. But to get force fed a QB we don't like, a coach nobody wanted, a draft without an OT in the first 4 rounds, and nothing remotely splashy and aggressive in the FA market....and not have the right to be skepical about it, AFTER a putrid sh-tty disasterous offensive show??? That's asking way too much. There are fans here that will accept everything and paint it up as greatness, then there are those that are reality based.

Falcons, Vikes, Niners....all played road games. Falcons played a perennial playoff team and SB champ 09, Vikes played SB champ 10. I'll give you the Niners. Jets played arguably the best D in the league with the best middle linebacker ever....playing out of his head no less. We played the Dolphins at home....their D is nothing special. We were putrid on offense, period. It's time to be realistic instead of pointing and actually believing "see...look at them....were not the worst!"

Well Said

Understood....but you saw last season and I did as well. An organization committed to winning, makes sure they get their guys. Our FO should have had top FA's targeted so that the second they became available, we made sure NOBODY else had a shot. And there were blue chippers all over the damn board....we go Tackle in 5. insane....now we cant run the ball and we cant protect QB.....surprisingly we cant move the ball.

His rationale for not improving the O-Line in the off season is beyond weak. Blue chippers all over the boards Rd. 1 and 2. Uncapped year so the Free Agency market was very available as well. If they are going to be this slow and pragmatic that the two options I mentioned didn't work for them, are we really going in the right direction??? I mean, OT wasn't just a casual NEED....it was 100% a MUST Everyone agreed. and we got Cornell Green and a 5th Rounder. So let me be the first to call Bulls-t on Buddy for the O-Line argument. http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2010OT.php Cornell was the 31st ranked of the FA's.

Yeah and if youre a proven veteran looking for fair value in a FA deal or better yet a contract extension, youre a nervy no good washed up money grubbibng scumbag......let the rest of the leagure deal with ya!

Watch Clay Matthews this weekend....the kid is a disruptive force. Poz has room to go

I'm sorry brotha....but its time to start saying it. Coming to this point the last time (early-mid 80's) got us Bruce and Jimbo and all the love that was the 90's. Gotta hit rock bottom before moving up. To keep the rose colored glasses on with this product is doing all of Bills country a disservice. We're the Lions, looking at a low single digit win season. Everyone goes through them: Win committed organizations move straight up off the bottom. Again, to look at the list of those successfully rebuilt in the last decade+ of our ineptitude is very depressing because the Jets oare on it TWICE!!!!!!!

This is all you do on this board is explain away this franchises ineptitude by saying: "hey look at those guys, we'ere bad, but theyre bad too". Not, in my opinion, a winning mentality. It's that mentality that allows you to accept this sh*t product and actually find reasons to get excited about it. The originator of this thread is dead-on. I have personally posted in favor of Vick, in favor of McNabb....even in favor of Hasselbck! Something to get this offense rebuilt and in the hands of the new future QB. The replies: too old, too slow, not enough time left blah blah blah. Then I cannot even count how many people posted in favor of Brohm! It's insane. Those 3 QB's have all gone deep into the playoffs and 2/3 have made SB appearances. To have that influence running your offense albeit at 85-100% of their peak capabilities and mentoring your young QBs is pretty much priceless. This board finds reasons to pass these opportunities off as a waste. The Bills QB puts forth one of the most pathetic performances ever.....yet this board can STILL find a way to say...."nah dont want that guy". Over and over again, I see critiques of what other teams paid for a guy and what a guy would want to play in Buffalo....and if he wants more than what we think hes worth....hell with him, he sucks! F that guy for not wanting to come here.....F ESPN....F the NFL network....F Cowher....>Shanahan not that good....how dare the press say were a bad team. Guess what...were the worst franchise in the NFL....the Lions have moved on from their Matt Millen disaster and are in a positive rebuild. We are the new Lions. When doing your analysis and posting here, maybe we should all start from that point. Then adding McNabb to our pathetic offense is a YES!!! PLEASE! because that is the reality of the situation. Stop being delusional....this is not what a positive rebuild looks like. This is not a win-committed organization. This is pacification and profits until they can figure out the plan because the Canadian expansion/Toronto move is a FAIL. This is the NFL version of Major League.

Exactly. They decided to stop the unsuccessful way they had been doing things and seriously rebuild. I don't want to look at the list of teams to successfully do so in this last decade+ because a couple may appear 2x (Jets).

Yet another team that was pathetic and suffering from owner-intervention(Skins) rebuild themselves back into being competitive. What did they do???? -Got a real coach (Not some low $$$ bum off the scrap heap) - Statement to the fans. -Got a real QB (NOT one of our guys deserves to share the same position with McNabb) -Drafted O-Linemen with their high picks. (Drafting spiller was the same as the T.O. move: selling tickets) -They have a 2nd legitimate threat to their #1 receiver to take the dbl coverage off. (Lee deserves much better) -We had EVERY SINGLE opportunity to do the same (including Orakpo). I'm still in shock that the OL wasn't addressed this off season. (5th round draft picks and Cornell f-cking Green?????) So...I predict that you can add the Skins to the list of teams now on the right track. McNabb under center makes it immediately very interesting. This organization behaves as if it's in a bubble and set apart from the league. Everyone has surpassed us. Pathetic.

This years draft was FULL of O-Linemen. We addressed the position in Rd 1 that needed the least amount of addressing. Just sayin....

Wow...just playing devil's advocate A starting QB that you wanted to run out of town last year. A suspect OL w/ probably the worst Tackle combo in the league. A HC that wasn't on anyones short or long lists (until he got the job of course) A defense that just lost it's best pass rusher, should be good, can be great....nobody knows yet. A division that includes a 3 SB winning coach/qb and a pretty good team that seems to make the playoffs every year, A team that went to last years AFC championship and did nothing but add value in the off season (many choose them for the SB) and the fins who's anybody's guess. A franchise that hasn't made the playoffs since Flutie Flakes were all the rage. A history of horrendous drafting in the last decade And you expect them do fawn all over this team and pick them anything better than 3 in our division? I love the optimism here, great fans for sure. Don't worry what the writers say, they will hop on the wagon if were any good in the first 3-4 weeks. It's up to the team now.

ESPN=ABC=Disney Just look at the intro to MNF.....they took a great sports tradition.....overproduced and celebrified it out to the max. It's unwatchable....the fukng helmets traveling into space????? WTF???? One defining moment: Emmitt Smith a guest in the MNF booth plugging his Dancing With The Stars appearance. Turn off the TV...it's a sesspool

BRAVO! It doesn't mean you are less of a fan for speaking to the blatantly obvious. Thanks for your post. Agree 100%

Rock bottom fellas .... The Lions fans have penciled the Bills game in as a Win.

Our 2 biggest needs going into the draft: LT and QB We addressed neither until rd. 5! How can ANYBODY say the rebuild is off to a great start with major questions at those two positions? Look at what the Rams did for cryin out loud....they have a defensive minded coach who must have had to contain himself not to take one of the two blue chip DT's.......he still did the right thing and went QB/LT. We were in position to get both 1+2 and still get a damn good NT in 3...quality and depth beyond that. I cannot believe how many satisfied kool aid drinkers there are the day after the draft ended and were heralding a 5th rounder and a 7th rounder as answers to our top 2 needs.

Sorry all of our picks are awesome and we have really turned the corner as a franchise. No dissention allowed here. Spiller was a need. FO is awesome. The FA pool sucked. All draft day trades from other teams sucked. Levi and Brohm are the answers. THe Pats are shaking at having to play us twice. The best OT's and QB's are found after rd. 5 and if you really like a player ....you reach and get them one rd ahead of their true value.

Keep flaming away.....what you think of me doesnt change things. Truth hurts man.

Been in the stands since O.J., your point?

Like I said: It is what it is buddy, watch how the entire media grades this draft. Not under my control.

everything we do looks and feels like its at a "J.V." level to the rest of the league. I would love to be a glass half full guy at this point but I would have to seriously delude myself into thinking that this offseason was a home run...let alone BARELY a step in the right direction. So as I am certain, the faithful watchdogs that rationalize every move the Bills make/do not make (while killing every other team for taking more direct steps to better their teams).....will flame me for this post, it is what it is. THere's not too many people that cover this league, that work in the league, are fans of other teams or just casual observers of the NFL...that look at the Buffalo Bills franchise and get excited or inspired. We field a team, thats what we do. You can watch it in the behavior of those who cover the league on TV, they can't say it but they are thinking it: we're a joke. They only talk about us because the have to and do not wase an extra second doing so. Our moves are always so questionable and off-key. As if we are looking at a different set of circumstances for ourselves that nobody else sees. If it had amounted to ANY success in a decade, then we could say there's real insight and knowledge there. But it never does. I love the fans here, we truly love this team. Up there with the cheese heads as the top tier. The downside of that is that it blinds many of us. We take everything we do or do not do and act like theres a secret set of motives that are so genius, so we should wait as the best is coming. Jerry Jones once praised Chan Gailey! Hey that 2nd round rech for 3rd round talent was brilliant, youll see. We DID need a RB with the #9 pick BECAUSE we ARE keeping Lynch. A 5th round OT IS something to build a line around for the future. Dont even get me started on the Brohm worship that goes on here...a practice squad castoff is now the great white hope! for this franchise enough to pass on Jimmy Claussen in the 2nd round. Faneca will go to a team that makes moves and takes chances and we will say how old and done he is on this board. I would bet Buddy and Chan got a full dose of why the chin and shanny never wanted to get near this franchise....the old man prob still pulls the strings on draft day. Even so, we're in the process of getting cheated out of a real competitive NFL franchise for another year but will take the lumps when the financial support of the bad product declines. I wish it were different but we do not behave on par with the rest of the league....and this offseason has been quite painful. Flame away guys. Go Bills.

NOW!!!! CHEEEEEAP!!!!