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In the end i guess it's pointless to continue discussing this b/c Bradford won't last until we pick at 9 and I don't see us moving up.

What exactly is it about Bradford's game that concerns you? Specifically.

Calm down guy.

Dude, your respsonse makes it seem as if Bradford was injured every year. This is football - ANY player can get hurt. Just b/c you take 100 shots and never get injured doesn't mean that the next shot won't injure you. Bradford never missed a game until his senior season.

It's just sad that people who have never really watched him play have such strong opinions. In my opinion, if you don't watch much college football at all, you really shouldn't even bother responding to any threads dealing with the draft, and just accept whatever happens on draft day. Arm strength wasn't a concern when he was slated to go #1 overall last season had he declared...heck, he may still go #1 overall in this draft. The reason I made the comparison to Cutler is b/c that's what people in Buffalo expect just b/c of the weather up here..and unfortunately many people hold certain QB's to those standards. Tom Brady doesn't have an overwhelmingly strong arm..but he can make all the throws in the NFL. If you've watched Bradford play week in and week out, you'd realize that the same applies to him.

McKelvin may be unproven b/c he's young, but the games he played for us he was solid...and he is a 1st round pick..McKelvin is going to start, no doubt about it as the #2 corner. We have plenty with McGee (who hopefully will stop with the special teams), McKelvin, Florence, and Corner (who was quite solid as well).

for everyone on here who insists that Bradford doesn't have a strong arm really must not have watched him play much at all. While he may not have a cannon of an arm like Cutler (few do)...it's by no means WEAK...it's def. above average and he can make any/every throw needed on the field. if you haven't seen him play much, just go watch footage on youtube or another site.

Sounds good man. You and I seem to be pushing for Bradford pretty hard. Unfortunately, I just don't see us getting him b/c I think he won't get past Washington..heck, he may go #1 overall depending on his performance at the combine.

1 Lions Matthew Stafford QB 2 Rams Jason Smith OT 3 Chiefs Tyson Jackson DE 4 Seahawks Aaron Curry OLB 5 Jets Mark Sanchez QB 6 Bengals Andre Smith OT 7 Raiders Darrius Heyward-Bey WR 8 Jaguars Eugene Monroe OT 9 Packers B.J. Raji DT 10 49ers Michael Crabtree WR 11 Bills Aaron Maybin DE 12 Broncos Knowshon Moreno RB 13 Redskins Brian Orakpo DE 14 Saints Malcolm Jenkins CB 15 Texans Brian Cushing OLB 16 Chargers Larry English DE 17 Buccaneers Josh Freeman QB 18 Broncos Robert Ayers LB 19 Eagles Jeremy Maclin WR 20 Lions Brandon Pettigrew TE 21 Browns Alex Mack C 22 Vikings Percy Harvin WR 23 Ravens Michael Oher OT 24 Falcons Peria Jerry DT 25 Dolphins Vontae Davis CB 26 Packers Clay Matthews OLB 27 Colts Donald Brown RB 28 Bills Eric Wood C 29 Giants Hakeem Nicks WR 30 Titans Kenny Britt WR 31 Cardinals Chris Wells RB 32 Steelers Evander Hood DT Look at the amount of talent taken after the 9th pick in last year's draft....there are always studs to be had after the top 10 in every draft..nothing wrong with trading down if our player isn't there, imo.

NO WAY. I'm not looking to trade Lynch at all. Ya, he had an off year, and yes, Jackson is superb for us...however, this is becoming more of a two-back league, and Jackson isn't getting any younger. Does anyone here really want us going into the season with Jackson carrying the entire load? Lynch is in his prime, and his cap hit actually isn't that much going forward..I expect a bounce back year from him.. Trading Lynch for a DB is a disaster, imo. Also, lets not forget that McKelvin is coming back for us and we still have McGee...McGee/McKelvin are our starting corners..and I'm fine with that.

This is the breakdown on Fox, as per CBS, Baby Joe: Pass blocking: At least moderate initial quickness, but is inconsistent with his depth on his initial kick-step. May lack the elite lateral quickness and balance to remain at left tackle in the pros. Appears to have the agility to beat the defender to the edge, but too often stops moving his feet and is susceptible to pass-rushers with a second move. Quick, active hands that he uses well to control the defender when he keeps his feet moving. Bends at the knees and has the core strength to anchor against the bull-rush. Alert, experienced pass blocker who reacts efficiently and correctly to the surprising blitz and loop. Run blocking: More consistent with his quickness as a run blocker. Can get out and hook the defensive end to seal the edge. Strong enough to turn his opponent, but isn't a road grader that can consistently drive his opponent off the ball. Quick hands, but has only marginal upper-body strength and hand placement to sustain. Good short-area quickness to get to the second level and shows at least adequate balance moving forward and laterally to hit the moving target. Good effort downfield. Pulling/trapping: Good initial burst to get off the line of scrimmage and out to the second level. Can adjust in space to oncoming defenders, showing at least adequate balance and agility for the cut-block. Gets his hands on the linebacker, but has to do a better job of keeping his feet chugging to sustain. Initial Quickness: At least adequate quickness to gain depth on his kick-step. Good initial quickness to gain position on the defender in the running game. Can beat the defender to the edge for the seal block. Downfield: Quick enough to get to the second level. Adjusts in space and can get his hands on his opponent. Generally provides a good effort, but could do a better job of keeping his feet moving once he engages the defender, as he lacks great strength or the nastiness offensive line coaches love. Good balance and accuracy as a cut-blocker. Intangibles: Started eight games at right tackle as a true freshman, but was moved to left tackle for four starts due to injuries to teammates and started the final 39 games of his career on the blind side. Voted team captain in 2008 and '09. Graduated with a degree in Marketing. Tough player who played through various injuries as a senior. Will require a Combine check for a dislocated elbow suffered in 2006 and the injury to his left knee that kept Fox out of lineup against Wisconsin in the 2009 Champs Sports Bowl. Despite missing the bowl game, was voted Co-MVP (along with ILB Daryl Sharpton) by his teammates. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1116608

He did have surgery but from everything I've read is expected to recover perfectly...As for the heartbeat thing, that's totally up in the air...I mean, he is 3rd in the U's history in games played behind Ed Reed and I forget who else...starting every game during his tenure at the U until he got injured at the very end. I don't know much about that hearbeat condition but apparently it didn't affect him at all in his prior years..we'll see. Anyway, I have him in the 3rd round assuming his medical condition is cleared by doctors..which hopefully it will. to me, he's one of the more consistent OT in this draft and I think he'd be much more of a sure thing at LT in the NFL than Davis for Rutgers for example.

First of all, lets get some things straight. "A number of teams..." does NOT equate to "most" teams. A number of teams could be 3. Most teams would be more like 20-25. Second of all, nobody really knows where players stand on teams' draft boards.

Def. agree.

Ya, he's had injury issues, but he's still young. IMO, RT isn't a need on this team other than depth...if that.

No way Davis goes in the top 5. That would be simply criminal. Having watched Davis in every single game he's ever played in college, he's a mid to lower half 1st round pick. (IMO)

When Butler played at RT, I thought he was very very solid. I think he is the answer at RT..just a matter of staying healthy.

I wouldn't trade up for either QB (Bradford). There's only one player I would consider trading up for, and that would be Suh..but only if he fell to about 5 or 6...which won't happen.

For Clausen? No.

Great post Astro. I'm huge on Fox..and think he's extremely underrated, which is surprising considering he's coming out of Miami. Not a flashy player with the raw talent of a Davis, but Fox at least plays to his potential and doesn't underachieve. Also, I'm kind of big on Calloway Veldeheer and Saffold as SOLID OT options in the 3rd round, in addition to Fox. I almost like all of them more than the likes of Charles Brown or Trent Williams

lol...i must admit that you two have been quite entertaining on this thread.

Darth, I agree with you 100%. I'm a rutgers alum and had a chance to watch all of davis' games and I've said on here before that as much as I like Davis and want him to succeed in the NFL, I think his ideal position in the NFL is going to be at Guard. Davis imo isn't worth a 9.