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Playaction bomb to hogan. Pass interference. 40yd penalty. 1st down!

Ill be at home. With my dog.

whats the big deal here?

L. M. F. A. O.

That's nasty. Throw in that no-named Kyle Williams and boy oh boy. God I can't wait until Kiko comes back next season. I was thinking about this - how much influence do you think Schwartz has had in Dareus' breakout campaign? I think coming from Detroit where he coached Suh - I'm sure Schwartz has told Dareus that he's twice the player that Suh is to motivate him. Under no circumstances does Schwartz leave this team if I'm pegula. I'd have Marrone pack it back to Syracuse before Schwartz left to be HC somewhere else.

yeah - funny how that's working out. If only that god damned pattern continued with Marrone on offense with the defense we have now.

Seriously man, from your lips to Pegula's ears. MW - signed for a while KW - signed through 2016 MD - signed through 2015 JH - FA after this season Preston Brown - around for a while Kiko - around for a while Bradham - signed through 2015 McKelvin - signed through 2016 Graham - around for a while Gilmore - signed through 2015 A. Williams - around for a while Searcy - FA after this season The majority of this defense is locked up for a while. This is awesome for us. They keys are clearly Dareus and Hughes. Lock them up long-term and the nucleus of this defense is SET for a while - Kiko, Brown, KW, MW, JH, AW, and Dareus: an awesome nucleus. I would probably not extend Gilmore when he becomes a FA, unless his demands are reasonable. Gilmore has not turned into the player I thought he was going to be. Searcy can be extended for relatively little money.

What a JOKE. Only guy on any of those shows who I've heard give major respect to our D-line is Warren Sapp.

Those #'s are awesome. Lets hope they continue vs. GB, NE, & Den.

Always fun reading opinions from opposing team's fans: http://www.thephins.com/forums/showthread.php?83887-predictions-for-Thursday-night I'd say their opinions are fairly split - probably 60% thinking they're going to win easily and 40% thinking it's a loss/tough game.

haha, yeah you're 100% correct. My feeling on Glenn is exactly as you describe but when there's money involved, who knows how the player/agent will react. You know his agent?

As for franchise tags, the player I'd probably tag in the near future would be Glenn. Extend Hughes and Dareus and tag Glenn. For whatever reason, I don't see that much drama with glenn. Anyone know who Glenn's agent is? I agree with you re: other teams but that's the problem with the Bills - they lack a successful institutional history of success in this respect. So if we start playing the game of tagging Dareus - as high price a FA as they'll come, it's going to probably breed serious doubt in the player that the team will eventually pony up and extend him, whereas other teams have been more willing to shell out the $$$ to retain their own high priced FA's after they've been tagged. That's the situation I'd want to avoid. Everyone in the locker room had to go through the entire Byrd fiasco and it wasn't pretty for 2 years so I'm not sure how much confidence there would be on the part of the player. That being said, we have new ownership now so it's a new ballgame.

Great responses man. It's going to be interesting to see what happens. In your opinion, should we franchise him or just bite the bullet after this season and pay the man despite him having 1 year left. I'm still bitter about the entire Byrd fiasco. In retrospect, it worked out for us, but the way it went down was very ugly. I don't want to relive that again. I don't want to relive Jason Peters again either.

It would be AWESOME Kirby. Our D-line can be like the Giants D-line a few years back where all they had to do was simply sneak into the playoffs and then DOMINATE the playoffs. Many will disagree, but we can sneak into the Playoffs with Orton at QB. Maybe not this year b/c this year of course, every single team apparently has a winning record in the AFC. But with Orton at QB, maybe solidify the OL a tad more through the draft/development of our rookies, and orton can win us 10 games with Watkins and this DLine. I want opposing offenses to piss themselves at the very thought of having to play us. Heck, I know Tannehill wet himself just now at the thought.

So you're saying we have a chance. lol. All kidding aside, if we can somehow manage to keep Hughes and Dareus, enabling us to have MW, KW, MD, and JH it would give this team an identity for the next few years. KW is 31. MW is 29 going on 30 so you figure the two only have 2 MAYBE 3 good years left where this D-line can absolutely DOMINATE. Dareus and Hughes could be the present and the future. Dareus is 24 and Hughes is 26 - Hughes just entered his prime and Dareus is just starting to tap his potential. But picture this: Lets say we franchise Dareus 1 year and then don't resign him. In 3 years the only piece left from this Dline may be? Nobody. Best case, we'd have a 33 year old MW. We can't let that happen folks. Keep Hughes and Dareus at ANY cost. I'm 100% in agreement with you on a personal level. Just playing devil's advocate again though for Dareus (b/c you know this is going to happen with his agent): I understand my client is a DT and not a DE, but my client puts up DE numbers at the DT position. How many DT in the NFL post +15 sacks? (lets assume Dareus drops off a bit and finishes with 15 sacks). My client wants to be the highest paid defensive player in the NFL. His skill-set is unmatched at the position. He hasn't even entered his prime yet.

Who do u have left?

It wasnt just the screen. And a dozen times in 9 games isnt all that much when we'e run the same HB dive a dozen times in a single game in the past.

In my opinion applying the franchise tag not once but twice to Dareus would be an unmitigated disaster. This franchise does not have an institutional history of keeping their own high-price FA so franchising Dareus would not be reassuring at all for him. A one-time franchise tag maybe. But twice? No way. I dont want to relive Byrd.

I feel when its all said and done Suh will get paid more than McCoy and Dareus will get paid more than all. Suh is 3 years older than Dareus. Let me repeat this for my client: he is 24yrs old and is on pace to break the single season sack record at the DT position. Mccoy and Suh's numbers are comparable to my client's - if you combine them together that is.

The Haynesworth comparison is scary. On the flip side of that, it would be a kick in the nuts to let Dareus walk and he becomes the next Sapp, if not better.

I'm sure the management in Foxborough would appreciate my client's services. I hear the Jets also have a lot of cap room - maybe I'll give them a call.

I like the negotiation Kirby. I LIKE IT!!! But my client is a DE playing the DT position and is a dual threat vs. the run/pass. McCoy is a nice little player but there's simply no comparison. Dareus has played every single game since being drafted by your team - and has progressed each and every season until WHAM, YOU NOW HAVE THE GOAT AT THE DT POSITION. McCoy has been injury prone and seriously needs to put on some more weight before he steps in my client's shoes. I want 8 years - 110 million - 60million guaranteed. Wow, you're really upsetting my client with this NONSENSE.

Is Hoyer better than orton? I'm not sure. And he's actually not that much younger at 29. No thanks. I'd keep Orton.

Warren Sapp - arguably best DT of all time. Dareus is on pace to have more sacks than Sapp ever had in a single season. Dareus is on pace to tie the single season sack record for a DT of 18 set by Keith Millard. And the guy is a beast vs. the run. Dareus > McCoy. Pegula better start selling some investments

Boy, if we could get Dareus for Mccoy money, I think it will be a bargain. Devils advocate from Dareus' camp: I'm 2 years younger than McCoy, I've played 1 less season than McCoy, yet I have 5 more career sacks. Dareus is going to want more money, I'm sure. I can see the Hali range for Hughes though..