All_Pro_Bills

How many communist/socialist hating Cubans do you think the Biden administration will be prepared to accept through their "open border" policy?

Our friend fails to inform us that ultimately even "elected" socialist systems degenerate into the dictatorship model. The reality that the most productive members of society will choose to exit such a situation must be dealt with by forcing them to stay. And as democratic societies work they generally do not share this characteristic. So government force and coercion becomes a necessity. But the fatal flaw of socialism and communism is they ultimately descend into the equal distribution of nothing. Poverty for everyone but the political elite. If you want a firsthand assessment find somebody like my acquaintances that grew up under the Soviet system and watched it fall prior to emigrating the US. They think the lefties here are at best naive idiots and at worst a danger to freedom and democracy to desire such a system.

What's I find laughable is the huge contradiction of reality the media, movies, and TV shows create about the FBI as some highly competent and just organization vs. the true nature of the agency as a corrupt political tool that has no legitimacy to call itself "law enforcement". I sympathize with what I expect are a large number of good and honest rank-and-file agents that need to hold their noses to avoid the stench of corruption emanating from their bosses at the top as they report to work each day.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/haiti/article252711838.html As US intelligence spies on every person in the country and gathers data on all forms of communications (like our posts at TBD) I assume the idea is they knew about what was about to go down but didn't alert anyone.

Yes, you are delusional. And admitting it is the first step.

Why are you still posting this insurrection nonsense? I totally destroyed that false narrative with my post on page 83 for which you or anyone else supporting that false narrative had no legitimate or rational response to a couple days ago. Its time to quit this fantasy world of conspiracies about overthrowing the government on 1/6. Absolutely nobody, anywhere in social media or the MSM has an answer to how 1/2 million protesters bent on overthrow were stopped by a handful of glorified mall security guards. Because to admit it was stopped by itself is to admit it never started. End of story here.

This is representative of the core problem. Confidence. It doesn't matter if there was election fraud or not. It doesn't matter if people casting votes were not eligible to cast a vote. It doesn't matter if the "process" was fair or not. It doesn't matter who won. We can argue and debate the finer points of the election law or results until the Sun burns out and who is right or wrong won't matter. What matters is if there was election fraud a very large number of citizens know with 100% certainty that the officials running the system, the official responsible for overseeing the system, the media reporting on it, and everyone else involved would all lie about it whether or not it happened. And would not investigate anything, would not look to find anything, and would obstruct and inhibit any audits and recounts by doing everything and anything they could to stop anyone else from finding any problems anywhere. The record to date supports this view. We are at the point of "systemic corruption". Where every institution, not just those connected to the elections, is viewed as corrupt. Its like Operation Mindcrime track 3. Its not Democrats vs. Republicans, or liberals vs, conservatives, or left vs, right. Its corruption and the consequences of corruption embedded in a lawless and self-serving government supported by its co-beneficiaries in the private sector such as big tech. Right now what's in short supply is honesty and integrity.

This was crafted by a guy named Darryl Cooper. Regarding election fraud he hit the nail on the head. Simply, if there was election fraud its a certainty that the FBI, media, and others would 100% for sure to lie and deny. The big lie isn't there was election fraud. The big lie is there was election fraud and the truth doesn't matter. The idea that 1/2 the country believes the last 2 presidential elections have been crooked show how dysfunctional our country has become and yet we still go merrily down that path. I hear Megadth Symphony of Destruction in my head.

Hey, that's much more insightful than the other explanations suggested on my question about what stopped the "insurrection". They got tired. Trump told them to stop. Their bus was leaving in 30 minutes. Maybe magic happy times fairy dust was sprinkled down on the Capitol that day to stop the insurrectionists too? The lengths big oppressive government advocates will go to deny the reality that our government has gone off the rails appears endless. And sadly whether you advocate for them or not they are out to screw us all just the same.

Now you're just yanking my chain here, right? They got tired? I've heard from the left that these people are extremists and cult members. Extremists are driven and like them or not they're not quitters. If they got tired and left why didn't they do something like start the entire Capitol building on fire or something before the left? That's something insurrectionists like to do. Start fires. We saw a lot of that last year in a lot of places.

You are just not capable of providing a straight-forward honest answer to a simple question. Because the answer conflicts with the ideology that apparently defines entire existence. What does that make you? So last chance. What stopped the "insurrection" given no capable force was on site that day? Was it magic? Devine intervention? Nancy Pelosi's breath? What was it?

So Trump was behind the whole thing and he called it off? Then why do it in the first place? You're making this way more complicated than it needs to be. It all sounds like a lot of people went through a lot of effort for nothing. Maybe the answer is there was no plan for any insurrection and the events were either spontaneous or driven by agitators not associated with the main protest. Ask the FBI, they know who these agitators were. And the story the administration is pushing is a bunch of political witchcraft designed to score points with their base and use it as a pretext to punish their political opponents. There... I answered it for you. Are we finished here yet?

Sorry but you have no answer. What stopped it? All I'm looking for is a reasonable and rational counter argument.

Thank you for making my day. Your unwillingness and perhaps inability to address and answer a very simple question I have asked has enabled me to neutralize and invalidate your entire argument on this topic.

There a lot of of holes in the insurrection narrative regarding the Capitol building on 1/6. The biggest one is a simple yet important question. I've scoured the media for anything that might provide an answer. I can't find anything that meets such criteria. In fact I haven't even seen the question asked. I've thought this through for a while. The question is this: What stopped the insurrection from succeeding on 1/6? To set the stage there was a crowed of approximately 500,000 protesters reported. Of that crowd about 900 were said to enter the Capitol. So a little less than .2% of the crowd participated in the lawful and unlawful entering of the Capitol. I say lawful and unlawful because reports suggest about 1/2 of the protesters entering the Capitol were "invited in" by the Capitol Police. So about .1% committed a crime of trespass. So the alleged idea was through any means necessary to: 1) stop the 2020 election results from being certified by Congress 2) stop the transition of power to the new administration So who and what stopped this from happening? It wasn't the military. There were no active units deployed or engaged. It wasn't the national guard. Congressional leaders informed of potential trouble ignored those warnings and declined the offer of the guard. It wasn't the DC police. They didn't have jurisdiction. It wasn't the Capitol Police They had a regular contingent of officers on duty that day and were ill prepared for the crowd or any potential trouble despite warnings. It wasn't members of Congress from either party. Reports suggest they were all hiding and running from the building. Given there was no organized resistance to this armed insurrection loaded up with AR-15s, hand guns, explosives, all kinds of weapons (that's the story being peddled, right?) what stopped them from locating, finding, chasing down, capturing, injuring, or killing any or all representative or senators that they were targeting? As there was little or nothing to stop them. Magically, with nothing in the way of achieving their "planned" objectives" it appears they just decided to turn around, leave, and go home. All without any reasonable explanation. From anyone, anywhere. That doesn't sound like the behavior of armed insurrectionists bent on "over-throwing" or disrupting the mechanisms of government. This is like the Greeks hiding in the Trojan Horse, stealing out of the horse in the dead of night, opening the gates of the city, then leaving and headed home. But we know that didn't happen. Or like Antifa breaking through the perimeter of the Federal Court House in Portland and then turning around to head back to their mom's basements. While we are all pretty confident they would have ransacked, destroyed, and burned the building to the ground given the chance. But these "Trump" insurrectionist" with nothing in their way to stop them from achieving their objectives just decided to forget about it all and just leave and go home. Simply excepting defeat after all the time and effort "planning" the attack and trudging all the way to DC just to leave empty handed. Logic would conclude the insurrection narrative is complete BS. But logic and Washington politics are mutually exclusive concepts.

So lets say your employer requires you to get the vaccine as a requirement for keeping your job. And then you get it and suffer serious side effects. By demanding this as a requirement for employment have they assumed legal liability for any adverse outcomes as they've mandated you get the vaccination? For forcing you to get what some medical experts suggest is an "experimental" vaccine based on messenger RNA technology (mRNA) which is categorized under the topic of Gene Therapy. A vaccine being distributed under EUA and not an approved BLA. My advice to all employees of all these companies. Your no match against them on your own. Form a union and fight power with numbers. Look at the teachers union as an example. You don't see school districts pushing them around. So there's no reason private sector workers have to take any crap either.

Can you pass these minimum physical requirements? The Ranger Fitness Test (58 push-ups, 69 sit-ups, five mile run in 40 minutes or less, six pull-ups), the Water Survival Assessment, and a 12-mile march with a 35-pound rucksack and weapon in less than three hours.

How can vaccinated individuals spread the virus? If this is indeed the case the reason would be the subject that received the vaccine did not develop sufficient antibodies and essentially the vaccine did not work. Otherwise, this sounds like pseudo-science at best and most likely guesswork. Viruses and vaccines have been around a long time, like flu vaccines, and I never once heard anyone raise any alarm to the public that vaccinated people were spreading the flu. Making these kinds of public statements without providing any insights or reasoning behind them just raises the suspicions of the public. Another thing. The volume of cases no longer qualifies this to be a national emergency. And while clusters of cases are being found in localities trend suggests the problem is under control and slowly subsiding. While it may never disappear the need for extreme measures is over unless some huge outbreak rears up. That doesn't seem likely. When viruses mutate the generally become more infectious but less lethal. This seems true so far based on experience with is Delta variant in the US to date. Treatments have been deployed or are in the process of being approved that will more effectively treat anyone requiring hospitalization. And the risk of death will drop at least 50% and perhaps as much as 85%. So even if we see an upswing in cases the death rate is going to drop dramatically and the severity of illness will also subside. initially the idea of lock downs and a national emergency was to prevent the health care system from being overrun by cases and hospitalizations. This goal was met. Hospitals are almost empty now of severe and critical COVID patients. And we know quite a bit more now about what risk factors make people susceptible to serious cases. So precautions can be tailored to met the needs of specific individual risk factors. Applying some general rule to the entire population is no longer efficient or required.

Well I don't think being objective about Trump, acknowledging the good and the bad, and calling it like it is should be viewed as me being some proponent of the guy. He's a detestable person but he's one of the few high-profile leaders that stands up against the establishment embedded inside Washington. Who do you propose I support? The current grifters and hustlers in the White House? Am aged President that obviously is not physically or mentally capable of executing the duties of the office? The Russian connection is a joke. Nobody, absolutely nobody, has ever, ever produced on single shred of evidence to prove any connection or association, Yet the fools continue to sell this nonsense. Are they just stupid? Or liars? They see some imaginary association with circumstances or events and use conjecture to draw some baseless conclusion of coordination or conspiracy. So who's peddling conspiracy theories here? Meanwhile, they ignore the China threat while they steal everything that isn't bolted down, bring it home, copy or improve it, with the intent of using it against us. Along with tech giants like Google, Facebook, and Twitter doing the bidding of Xi. Maybe that's a story CNN and MSNBC should cover 24/7? Either these people are helping or ignoring it but either way they need to step aside and let somebody that knows what's going on take charge. As for attacking CRT you may view my comments as attack and I see them as an honest critique of something based on illogical conclusions and misrepresentations of historical events. Its the subjective opinion of the authors. Nothing more, nothing less. But its being peddled as some kind of sound and thoroughly researched theory. I'm willing to listen if you could tell me what about it you find genuinely useful and objective? I don't see what I say as "downplaying" 1/6. I see what others are saying as over-playing it. What are the facts so far? Nobody has been charged with insurrection but that's what it continues to be called in the media. Suspects are being detained without bail in confinement for minor charges while suspects arrested for serious crimes of violence are released without bail in major cities across the US. These people are more like "political prisoners" than criminals. Its been 6 months and the government has yet to bring anything to trial. And the committee to investigate? Its a political farce. As far as election irregularities the jury is still out as audits and investigation continues in several states. And people that insist nothing is there to be found insist on trying to stop others from looking. But so far motions to stop a lot of these activities have failed. That doesn't raise any suspicions for you?

All good except for the fact the deal was negotiated by the Trump administration prior to leaving office so all Biden did was execute on the agreement already in place. So can you redirect the praise and credit to Trump and give credit where credit is due? When Hell freezes over I expect. With this I say a good night to all.

My beliefs align with personal freedom, respect for others, democracy, and a general civility and the rights of others to do the same. If you associate those qualities with fascism that says more about you than it says about me. How you could arrive at that conclusion is something I find curious. I guess that's your "go-to" move when cornered. And frankly, you are not communicating with me. You keep insisting on associating my views with some monolithic construct of the GOP. Which they are not. You are talking past what I say and refuse to directly address any questions I pose about your views as your responses generally are more about me and questioning my character rather than they are about the contents and message of my postings here.

If she was somebody with criminal record, resisting arrest, and engaging in a confrontation with police during a traffic stop in Minneapolis or many other cities we'd know the identity of the officer in a couple hours along with getting views of body cam footage. And the officer would be immediately suspended and the bringing of charges would automatically begin being investigated and considered by the local DA. Tell me I an wrong? Please tell me I'm wrong? And please no phony racist accusation crap to avoid giving an honest answer. Somebody be the first lefty to tell the truth today! Face the truth. Our government at all levels sucks ass..

First off its not my party. I'm a registered Democrat but they lost me over a decade ago when everything started morphing into the current extremest ideology. So please stop trying to slot me me into some preconceived category. You might want to consider the likelihood that you are the one that needs to assess fake news and getting gaslighted by the likes of CNN and MSNBC. As time goes on you might notice every narrative they've preached has proven false as more information gets out there. As I've stated a few times I am perplexed why people that consider themselves liberal are now worshiping at the alter of big government and monopolistic corporations? Traditionally liberals opposed government and the establishment and powerful corporations? Maybe that topic needs its own thread?

The liberal plot is to meld the oppressive powers of the State with big corporate entities. You look at Google, Facebook, Twitter. They are simply extensions of the intelligence gathering capabilities of the State. That's their primary function. They do it for our government, they do it for China too. Textbook definition of fascism. Genuine liberals distrust government and hate big corporations. These clowns are not liberals. But nice of you post some another dumb slogan and avoid commenting on anything I stated.

Correct. The idea some disorganized band of rioters without any capacity to hold or occupy or overthrow the government, with no logistical support from anywhere else, is frankly comical. Anyone that believes or pursues that narrative is at best a fool. Look how much trouble armed and violent rioters and anarchist had in attempting attacks on Federal facilities. Antifa forces sent wave after wave of their forces against the Federal Court House in Portland night after night and still couldn't take or destroy the facility. But the left wing fascists don't want to remember or compare any of that do they? Their game now is to play up the Capitol event and exploit it to the max. In order to use it as pretext for oppressing their political opposition through the passage of new "laws" criminalizing political descent. That's the objective and end game here. Gain more power and control. Law and order? They don't care about that as demonstrated by the number of nightly shootings and murders across the country. The fact everyone knows that's the goal and they still won't admit it demonstrates a high level of dishonesty.