All_Pro_Bills

Everyone, for or against him. should reconcile with the fact that the result of the election is going to be Joe Biden in the White House. Unless by some miracle there are recounts ordered and vote challenges upheld in several key states. Under that scenario all hell would break loose. One of the reasons Trump lost a lot of supporters was his failure to keep his 2016 campaign promise to "drain the swamp". He didn't do that. In fact the swamp existing inside his administration and inside the government without being encumbered or impeded during his term. He made of lot of promises, shot his mouth off, made a lot of threats, but never took any action. But he still can if he chooses to do so. Let me say I doubt he will. It would piss off a lot of powerful and dangerous people. There could be consequences to angering and exposing them. But it might be one of the greatest moments in American history. A moment of truth. A middle finger to the people running the show from behind the curtain protected in the darkness and flaunting the law. He has the power to de-classify and release all kinds of 'swamp" secrets to the public. These are some of the things I think he should expose and do. I think we all would like to know most of them. Just a few: Release all information on the JFK, MLK, and RFK assassinations. Release all information on the Vietnam War. Release all information on the 1990 Gulf War and the lies told about WMD. Release all information on the 911 attack. Pardon Julian Assauge and out the source of the Clinton server e-mails and the DNC files that were received by Wkileaks Release all information on Russiagate, the origins, the investigation, the outcome Release all information on CIA and NSA spying, information gathering, and surveillance of American citizens. Identify corporate co-conspirators and their roles. Release all information on the origins of COVID. Was it natural, was it man-made? Release all information on MOSSAD spying on U.S. soil. Get them out of here. Release all information on "real" Chinese spying and theft of IP and identify domestic co-conspirators Release all information on "real" Russian spying and influence. Release Jeffrey Epstein's client book and out all the pedophiles and perverts on the list. Any of this will be met with cries and concerns about "national security". But if your national security is based on the systematic deception of American citizens you don't really have any security to protect. What people expressing national security concerns are really saying is they don't want their asses exposed to the public and the light of day. Releasing all or some of this will blow the lid off the deep state and fulfill his #1 campaign promise. I doubt Trump will do it.

I doubt the recounts will sway the election to Trump. But I also don't see why people are so resistant to recounts unless they think there's something to hide? All the lying and excuses aside they're simply afraid a recount count could alter the result. However, remote that scenario might be. Let's not BS each other any more.

Trump's response to the COVID outbreak was certainly insufficient. But we can say that about almost every single world leader too. His instincts were correct in shutting down travel from China (which was met with charges of "racism" right on queue) but he didn't go far enough as the virus came to our shores generally through travelers from Europe (there was the less severe West Coast variant of COVID and the more deadly East Coast strain). By the time a more restrictive policy was put into place to manage travel it was too late. And while the virus raged in the NY/NJ area it was incomprehensible that air travel into and out of the 3 NYC area airports was still in operation. Epidemiological models I've seen show how that facilitied the spread of the virus across the country. Although I do not believe they acted with malice and if they had more information they would have done otherwise, the actions by the governors in NY and NJ resulted in the deaths of thousands of nursing home patients. The outbreak required cooperation between governments and agencies on a global scale and he was just not up to or willing to take on that task. Rather he choose the path of America going it alone. There were failures in intelligence and awareness. In late 2019 (I guess that's why its COVID 19 instead of COVID 20?) China began stockpiling personal protective equipment. This could have been a clue of something and in hindsight it indicates Chinese officials were aware of the virus and that the outbreak had already begun. Some place its origin back to October 2019. Much of the PPE left US inventories so when the virus hit the U.S. there was a shortage of gear for American health care workers. Many got sick or died as a result. So China could have certainly been more transparent about the outbreak. And the WHO was less than helpful during the outbreak sending sometimes conflicting and false signals on the severity and nature of the virus and the outbreak. U.S health agencies changed their positions on masks and other measures so there were a lot of inconsistencies in how to deal with the outbreak. From my perspective Trump's biggest fault was his unwillingness to deal with the outbreak with the seriousness it required. Always downplaying the situation, claiming all was well when people looked around themselves and saw a very bad situation that the President just seem to be disconnected from in some other reality. And if he took more responsibility rather than looking to pass off blame and accountability which is his nature the assessment of his performance by the public might have been better. He just didn't act in the manner consistent with the actions and behaviors of a true leader.

If you want to "make a ton of money" and the Democrats control the White House and Congress they will likely pass all kinds of new initiatives that require either more taxes, more borrowing, or more outright money printing to fund. It will all seem like a "free lunch" to start. Before it turns to crap. So bet on higher taxes and high price inflation by investing in hard assets and distribute some funds into foreign stocks using things like emerging market ETF's or mutual funds. Dump treasury and corporate bonds funds as interest rates rise. This will be different from the "inflation" the Fed has created in asset markets by pumping money into the banking system through QE. QE has been a major contributor to the so called wealth gap and income inequality. Simply rich people own most of the financial assets so when huge amounts of money get pumped into the market rich people get richer. This has also helped Boomers fund a more lavish lifestyle than successive generations as they got in on the ground floor of the market moves through being lucky to be at the right age when the markets began to move. Gen X'ers and Millennials not so lucky. But don't worry, they will suffer when markets crash but you will suffer more. Expect your cost of living to increase substantially. Expect the US dollar to lose a lot of value against other currencies like the CDN dollar which will likely move close to par with the US currency. This will be followed by calls and actions to raise the minimum wage to a "livable" level which will result in more unemployment. Your might see price and wage controls enacted. And if the US dollar loses its official status in trade settlement and as the central bank reserve currency of choice then look out. The party will be over. A recession or depression. Expect this political outcome to be a one-term experiment.

Your point to me is stereotypes are dangerous to make. I could stereotype Biden supporters to be liberal arts degree holders that are either unemployed or under-employed along with the 50% of Americans that pay no Federal tax plus people on welfare and others receiving all kinds of Federal and State handouts that want more "free stuff" and they see the role of government being a mechanism to force productive people to pay for all of it so they can live a relatively comfortable lifestyle without doing any real work to earn it. But I know better because I know and socialize with people that hold diverse beliefs that are tolerant of others and respectful regardless of their political disagreements. just a few years ago that was the norm rather than the exception.

There's an a written by a fellow named David Haggith titled "TROJAN TRUMP: I Would Have Voted for Trump if he had Done Anything to Bring Down the Deep State". I think both pro and anti Trump people might find it interesting. It certainly resonates with my personal assessment of Trump. You can find it on zerohedge this morning. The prologue to it: "I have tried to be fair with Trump, taking down many of the big lies I have seen brought against him, but I hold him to the same standard of truth. His charges of fake news against the mainstream media could have changed things if he hadn’t told so many lies himself that he lost all moral high ground. If you’re going to accuse liars of lying, you can’t be one yourself. Trump’s loudest of all lies to his own supporters has been that he will bring down the deep state (“drain the swamp”). Back in September, 2016, before Trump even became president, I wrote an article titled, “Trump: Trojan Horse for the Establishment or Mighty Mouth for Mankind?” in which I gave the following observations and warning: I crave the opportunity to see an anti-establishment candidate win the election…. So, while I do not like Trump the man (as it would appear he has never done anything that didn’t entirely serve his own self-interest and pompous ego), I have thoroughly enjoyed seeing him upset establishment Republicans and establishment Democrats … because … both parties exist to serve the same rich people and themselves…. I’ll even acknowledge that perhaps it takes someone as brazen and blusterous as Trump … to stand up to such a powerful assemblage of egoists as we have embedded in congress …. My desire to see the economy righted and the establishment overturned (peacefully), however, is exactly what makes me cautious about any gold-plated politician who has lived all of his life in the realm of the one percenters…. While I have never liked this particular publicity *****, I’d put up with his relentless boasting and forgive his audacious past if it takes that kind of brassy, risk-taking adventurer … to stand up to the intimidation's of congress…. Unfortunately, I have seen often in life that bellicose people are usually nowhere near as brave as they sound…. Then I asked, Is Donald Trump a Trojan horse? Is he as hollow as his mouth is big?… Trump knows he can tap into a huge vault of anger; and, as a media mogul himself, he knows better than anyone how to play the media for free publicity by being outrageous…. From Trump’s choice of a 180-proof neocon vice presidential candidate to an embedded Goldman-Sachs campaign financial manager to the Heritage Foundation’s dream team of budget advisors he assembled, Trump has selected people who wholly embody the establishment. Everything these people have ever done or said has been in support of the Wall Street one-percenters…. So, if you think Trump is any threat to the establishment, you may be riding a Trojan horse."

I do understand. Maybe you are not as familiar with business and system process implementation as its not really the wheelhouse of data scientists. Any new process has errors consistent with failure to conform to system specifications. I've never seen a system or process work at 100% to conformance to specifications on day one. If you have then you're the first. This entire mass mail in ballot (we've had some form of limited absentee and mail in ballots before) is new and quickly defined. Let's look at PA. The vote stands at 49.7% for Biden and 49.1% for Trump. You're going to suggest the error rate here either by unintentional or intentional counting is less than 1%? I call BS on that. We can agree to disagree. You can claim the higher ground all you want, and also suggest the state did its job correctly. But you have no more proof of this than I do unless you were present and observing the activity. As a scientist you should have an innate skepticism. And these people managing and acting in the process are not machines or logical instructions. This is not a controlled research environment. This is a process with a lot of moving parts. A lot of opportunities for errors. People have motivations and skills that we have no ability to assess or quantify. You're assuming they did their job to the letter and intent of the process. But affidits and sworn statements along with video evidence and documented instances of process violations should be enough to require a credible recount where the margin of victory is .6%. This margin seems well within a reasonable threshold to order a recount without hesitation and without any actions to contest the count. That seems like a reasonable thing in the world's greatest democracy. . Like I said at the beginning. Why be afraid of a recount? If it confirms the original outcome then case closed and we move on. If not then we need to apply pressure and put more scrutiny on the players and actors in the process. Let's cut to the chase here too. The fear among the resistance to a recount is a recount might alter the outcome they desire.

So when doing research and coming up with insights and conclusions you don't perform checks and validations to ensure your results are correct? Of course you do. But in the case of the election you're also making a similar pre-conceived conclusion. In your case that the error rate is not statistically significant and the process was run in conformance to its design. Your assessment of that is neither more correct or more incorrect unless we audit the process and receive some confirmation our hypothesis is either true or false. So why so much resistance from all places to validate the result and put all issues to rest?

Well, first tell me how I'm wrong don't just say I'm wrong and leave it at that. That doesn't qualify as a rebuttal. Here's where I'm coming from on this. First I don't care who won let's get that straight right away. I have about 25 years experience managing and participating in development and roll-outs of business and technical projects and processes on an enterprise scale. As well as several years experience in my current job managing a data analytics organization. I know business and technical systems and statistics and analytics. I've worked in the public sector in state government and in the private sector for both large and small companies. In the private sector some of my clients have been government agencies and organizations. I know from experience and facts that no matter how good and thorough you are there are always quality and performance issues when rolling out a process or an application. I know from facts there is no process that exists that has a zero error rate. I'm well versed in process and quality principals like 6-sigma. So when it comes to processes and data and statistics I can claim expert status. So here's the thing. Every process has a positive error rate. Some might be close to zero like defense or aerospace applications or medical procedures but they are not zero. So there is no process defined by humans that has a zero error rate. And throw in the facts the mail in ballot was quickly defined and deployed using the COVID outbreak as justification. And then throw in the fact it was designed and deployed by non-scientific government organization(s) and I can say with confidence the error rate is high. How high? My educated guess is between 12 and 15 percent. But everyone that knows close to nothing about processes and statistics can go on believing the error rate is zero or near zero. Its their fundamental right to be ill-informed and oblivious to reality. Its their right to cheer on a potentially incorrect result. So it comes down to this. Its a 100% certainty this mail in ballot process has a high error rate. High enough to alter the result? I don't know, nobody knows. But if there's nothing to hide then why worry about a recount? Why all the protests about having a recount? If it doesn't matter and won't alter the result then let the Trump campaign spend the funds to bankroll the recounts. If its a waste of time its their time not yours. What do you care? You're so sure its all legitimate so there's nothing to lose, right? If everything is on the up-and-up then why isn't the Biden camp endorsing and encouraging these recounts? After all, that will put to rest all claims of impropriety and the country can move forward knowing the results were fair. It all seems like a small price to pay in order to achieve some degree of unity. To summarize the Biden campaign and the DNC (and the MSM that suppresses any questioning of the result) have a lot of smart people working for them. They know the same things I do and more about the details of the count and what went down in several key states. They know its BS. They know there's a high number of invalid votes/data records that passed the quality test of the process because the process was not functioning to spec or the users (the vote counters) did not perform their function correctly. They are all lying out of simple self-interest. They have no concern for the legitimacy of the voting process only the results. And anyone that thinks the result is more important than the process of democracy is traveling down a dangerous path. If you disagree with me you should re-think your position. You should be careful what you wish for.

Here's the problem with the call for evidence BEFORE performing any data analysis on the population of votes in some specific state or county. The evidence is an output of the process, not an input. In order to assess the need for a recount or a review of the vote you need to produce allegations that lead to a conclusion that support enough probable cause to support the need to examine the data. So you do a recount. You do a recount strictly following the rules and procedures for counting and recording votes for that specific jurisdiction. You compare the result of your recount analysis to the original "baseline" vote count. If there is no meaningful statistical difference in the two counts then you conclude the original count was correct. You are done and the result is confirmed. If there is a meaningful statistical difference between the recount and the original count then you conclude the original count has some data disparities that require further analysis. You identify the votes or data records counted in the original count but rejected in the recount which was performed strictly and correctly by applying the rules and procedures for the jurisdiction. You identify the specific reason a vote was rejected like the person was dead or they did not reside in the jurisdiction and other reasons for rejection. You produce a count by each category you have established. Now we come to the evidence part. I have all these votes that were counted in the original count that were rejected in the recount. How did all these votes that were rejected in the recount get into the original count? Then you look for answers to questions: Did the people doing the count understand the rules and procedures for counting votes? How did votes for dead people get into the count? How did votes that were received late get into the original count? How did votes from people not residing in the jurisdiction get into the original count? And so on. Then we can draw conclusions: Like there were 1,000 votes from dead people that polling place XYZ included. We need to interview the poll workers at XYZ and find out why they counted those votes. But people wanting to see evidence before the analysis and investigation take place don't care about the evidence. In most cases what they really want is to shut down discussion of the issues and shut down any investigation into the vote count. Am I right? You know I am. They're not the least bit interesting in any evidence. They're looking to avoid scrutiny and questions and consequences. And avoid any potential to reverse the original result which they support. So people asking for evidence before the investigation are full of crap. And they know it. We all know it.

Its doubtful the Supreme Court will rule to eliminate the ACA. It's too broad a ruling and rumblings from the court suggest any challenge would be rejected. The potential to eliminate the ACA was a scare tactic used in the campaign. I guess it worked.

I could say "show me the evidence" like my liberal friends suggest when they want to evade discussing some uncomfortable or dangerous topic when you make accusations about the Trump clan profiting from his Presidency but I won't. And to summarize I think you're saying its okay electing someone with no integrity or moral character, someone that takes money from foreign entities, someone who might be beholden and even blackmailed by those interests and someone who may be a national security risk. But in your view is the lesser of two evils. I'm not so sure your assessment of the lessor of two evils is correct. After all, Trump might be a loud and obnoxious buffoon but he's not a career politician. (I think of the joke about the politician that fell into shark infested waters and they didn't eat him. Why they asked? Professional courtesy). Frankly I'm not happy with the choice that was presented to the voters. I said elsewhere if there was a year to insert a line on the ballot for "none of the above" this was it. But as for the Democrats I suggest the voters had the opportunity to select among several other candidates of good ethics and integrity during the primary campaign. But for some reason they gravitated to an unexceptional 40 year political veteran who never had any vision or ideas rather than one of the others that might have provided such vision. So far the only vision that Biden has presented is to use his political office to feather the nest of his family members and himself. Good luck everybody.

I totally align with your thoughts. My issue isn't whether Biden or Trump won the election. Frankly, for me and my current situation it won't make much difference. The issue is how much are you willing to let the political class get away with along with their agents like the social media and MSM giants and multinational corporations? How much of your freedom and right to decide your own course and fate are you willing to surrender to the government? Why are people in such a rush to give "The State" and its agents more power and control over their lives? Why is the political class so afraid of the truth? What happened to investigative journalism? Why are people so happy and delighted to eat the narratives they create? And on top of it defend it? What happened to the art of critical thinking? As for the media, after the Hunter Biden laptop revelations it had to be obvious to anyone in the known Universe that Biden was tainted. The Times, the Post, and all others. Yet they suppressed and refused to report the story and instead acted to suppress it as much as possible. Never, ever, did the Biden camp make any statements claiming the E-Mails and files on that machine we fabricated or false. They constituted real and genuine correspondence and information on deals made with foreign entities (such as CCP connected companies) to provide influence of our government in exchange for payoffs to Hunter and other family members including potential President-elect Joe Biden. At a minimum he was complicit in knowing of the arrangement and most likely a willing participant. So now here we are. With a likely President elect that has taken payoffs from the Chinese Communist Party and others. These are crimes and a lack of integrity. A disregard for America and a blatant statement that they are above the law. This is the guy the majority want to be President? And the media remains silent still. And all the drones go along with it like their brains have been removed or they are medicated to the point of being unable to produce a single clear and lucid thought. The whole situation is so sad because they are the ones that most likely will suffer most from what is going to come about in the coming years. The elites pulling the strings behind the scenes will escape unharmed and more enriched and powerful than they are now. The political elites are the real enemy. Meanwhile they create the circumstances where 1/2 the country is at odds with the other 1/2 while they flourish and everyone else suffers. At some point maybe Biden supports and Trump supporters will realize they are each other's enemies but merely being played against each other by political and financial forces of wealth and power that crave more wealth and power at their expense. Everybody wake up!

Let's push to de-classifiy and release all the unredacted Russia intel and information from the alleged interference and collusion investigations so we all know the truth. Wouldn't you agree it would be in the best interests of everyone to know the complete truth?

Because the Washington Post and the New York Times for that matter are acting as extensions of the Democratic Party and the resistance since Trump came to office. Most of the reporters working for them are not journalists or newspaper people in the classical sense. They are political activists.

He did not admit to making it up.

And guys like Clapper are crapping their pants now because they're afraid Trump is going to de-classify and order the release of all notes and information on the Russia hoax in unredacted form which will implicate the former CIA director and many others in crimes. Of course his concern is "national security". Code for we're hiding a lot of illegal and unethical crap that we don't want anyone to know about. Clapper has suggested the VP and cabinet execute a coup against the President to keep this information secret. The guys a total scum bag. This is going to be a wild ride for the next 2 1/2 months..

This is getting us nowhere. Asking for evidence here is just a game to shut down conversation. What "first hand" evidence do any of us have that the process was free and fair? Nothing. What "first hand" evidence to any of us have that the process was tainted? Nothing. How would anyone have any "evidence" unless they are an election officials charged with vote counted or monitoring the results or someone directly performing an investigation? We know what we are told to know and we believe it or not based on many things such as the credibility we assign to the source. You evidently are willing to believe what you are told without question because it either suits your position or you trust the source. I am willing to entertain the idea that things need more examination and that it can't hurt to take a look because I think the entire system is corrupt and due for a reset. And Biden ain't no reset.. And frankly I don't care who won because I can say with almost 100% certainty that no matter who won it isn't going to impact anything important in my life one way or the other. This is the same boat most of us are in. I'll still need to pay my bills, work my job, take care of myself and my family, pay taxes, and keep trudging along. Trump didn't help me and I think he's an idiot. In fact his tax law changes totally screwed me. And Biden isn't going to help me either unless he wants to pay my bills and mortgage for me and other than that just leave me alone.

That's funny. You will make an excellent drone. The only thing flat going on here is your brainwave pattern..

I don't disagree but I think we're very early in the process to issue a blanket dismissal of all potential improprieties. After all its only been a few days. And its that quick and immediate dismissal that creates a lot of suspicion and generates distrust of the process. The fact is we don't know all the facts. So the scientific process of discovery for developing a hypothesis or theory and then performing investigations and analysis, gathering facts to either support or dispute a potential conclusion is invalid without evidence that you are right to begin with? Which eliminates the need to perform any investigation? Wow! If we used that line of thinking we'd still be living in caves and sitting around campfires being hunted by Sabertooth Tigers..

My assessment is the objective was purely focused on getting rid of Trump. And this view was shared by many Republicans such as the "never-Trumpers" and other members of the professional political class that steered clear of supporting, endorsing, or campaigning for Trump. Trump is not a member of the professional political class. He is a loud and abusive party-crasher that for all purposes, good and bad, interrupted their racket for almost 4 years. So the bosses met and made a deal to keep hands off the Senate races.

That's a good question. How do we get people working together again? I've thought about that too and how it likely won't happen after another contentious Presidential election that played out under the circumstances we have now. But here's where I think it needs to start. The most important thing right now is that people believe in the legitimacy and fairness of the election process. And that every vote of every citizen cast is counted correctly by the rules, procedures, and laws governing the electoral process. In the big picture of our republic and the democratic process it really isn't important if Biden or Trump won. What matters is the established process and procedures are followed to the letter so we all understand the results are legitimate. But now we have the second election in a row where about 1/2 the country thinks the electoral process isn't fair. If we walk away from this event without producing a result of legitmacy and fairness were doomed from the start again. So what to do? Well, the first thing is to embrace the truth, the search for the truth and resist any efforts from anyone to suppress to truth. The contention here is there were voting irregularities. Dead people casting ballots, poll workers denied their rights under the process to observe the vote counting process and cast objections, and abuses of the mail-in ballot process. These allegations are focused on several "battle ground" states. To name a few. The most likely scenario is the supporters of the declared "winner" will resist and dismiss these allegations. But should they? And is it really in their best interests to do so? First, there are allegations that the votes of "dead people" have been cast and counted in certain State and Counties. And since dead people are incapable of showing up at the polls and casting a vote in person or filling out and mailing a mail-in ballot logic leads to the conclusion that some "live person" not authorized to cast a vote in the name of the dead person either showed up at the polling place and cast a ballot or filled out a mail-in ballot in violation of the process. Shouldn't we all be interested in understanding how the votes of dead people found their way into the electoral process and have those voted invalidated and removed from the count? Shouldn't everyone be interested in the truth and the validity of the electoral process and the result? And shouldn't everyone with a shred of integrity and moral character be interested in the motivation of people that cast illegal votes in the names of dead people and hold them accountable and have them suffer the consequences of their actions? And if these allegations prove to be false shouldn't we all be satisfied that the alleged violation of the electoral process was properly investigated and found to be false? Should we all be satisfied that the truth was found and the process was found to be fair? Allegations that poll observers were refused their right under the process to observe the vote count and object to specific ballots that could potentially violate the count process? Should we all be interested in why poll observers were inhibited from observing the vote count process and understanding the motivation of those violating their right under the process? Shouldn't we all be interesting in knowing if they were hiding something or what other process and procedure of the electoral process that might have been violated? Shouldn't we all be interested in knowing the truth and insuring all votes were properly counted? Allegations that mail-in ballots were back-dated to allow them to be counted have been made. Shouldn't we all be interested to know if and why back-dating of ballots is an issue? Shouldn't we all be interested that the ballots were counted and cast properly? In closing everyone needs to ask themselves. Is the result so important that I'm willing to compromise my personal integrity and moral beliefs and overlook violations of the electoral process? Am I unwilling to give people I might disagree with a fair and impartial review of their grievances simply because we disagree on specific issues? And what happens when the shoe is on the other foot? Will I think I have a "right" to something I might deny to others? I think the biggest problem we face is that everybody is afraid of the truth. Lying seems to be so much more convenient and easier. But "the truth will set you free" as Dr. King said. For a long time I didn't quite understand what he meant. But I think I do now. What it simply means is if you deal with the truth and facts and ignore and dismiss everybody's BS you'll see things as they really are and this will eliminate the power and control that the system and other people have over you.

Because they've been pissy little cry babies for the past 4 years but expect you to be some kind of gracious loser. I hope they're all going to be happy with the disaster that awaits us all with the "election" of a demented and senile old white guy. What's the over/under on how long old Joe lasts?

I'm not too concerned about the media and their expectations or assessments of the Bills or Josh Allen. With maybe an exception or two every one of them picked the Seahawks to win yesterday. But the Bills prevailed and Allen had a memorable game. Maybe a break out game when we look back after the season. Tagovailoa was a high first round pick with high expectations. He played within the system in two starts and yesterday he made a few mistakes (one of them was a terrible interception) but the team was able to overcome them and avoid OT because usually reliable Zane Gonzalez shorted a FG attempt. Given how the season always goes its certain he'll face some adversity at some point so how he handles it will be telling.

I could find a few other Presidential actions I consider "more" dishonest. Andrew Jackson screwing all the Indian tribes by hustling them out of their land and personally profiting from the sale of land tracts in place like Georgia. Just to name one. And isn't dishonesty a prerequisite for being a politician in the first place? After all, every election you need to pretend to care about the voters. I'm not a Trump supporter or a Biden supporter. I hold out hope we can do better but with each passing election I lose a little faith in that belief. There will certainly be legal challenges to the results in several "swing" states. Michigan, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, and Arizona. PA will by all accounts end up at the US Supreme Court. In October the PA Supreme Court ruled that ballots received after 8 PM on Nov. 3rd should be counted citing extraordinary circumstances caused by the pandemic. This contrary to PA election law which states ballots received after that deadline are invalid. Some might call this judicial activism. The US court will likely rule those ballots invalid and they've already instructed PA election officials to segregate those ballots. In PA and MI postal workers have reported they were directed by supervisors to sort-out ballots received late from other mail and manually pre-date them with a postal stamp prior to Nov. 3rd. You can call it some conspiracy or whatever you'd like but workers have agreed to testify to this under oath if required. And manual and mechanical stamps can be visually identified if needed on ballots. What was the reason and source of such a directive? In the contested states vote counts were stopped in counties that officials knew would go large for Biden. Why stop counting? In order to know how many fake votes they need to stuff into the ballot box to eek out a close but comfortable win is the explanation I read from election rigging "experts". Cook Country Illinois is 1960 is a classic example of this strategy. Most likely Biden will be declared the winner, serve a few months, and then step down as Harris assumes the Presidency. But in the event these challenges are successful and Trump is declared winner chaos will break out everywhere as many will simply refuse to accept the results regardless of the illegitimate and illegal vote fraud. As mainstream and social media spin it all as you do - sore loser reactions. The uninformed public will buy the narrative hook, like, and sinker. They're either incapable of comprehending the situation or too intellectually lazy to follow a complex set of intertwined circumstances. Conversely, Trump's most loyal supporters will also refuse to accept the outcome and they can do a lot of damage too. Either way we're in for a wild ride in 2021 as the "not my President" mantra lives on in a slightly different form. And most ironic to me is the pontificating hypocrites lecturing others on accepting the results of an election where they have refused to do the very same thing for almost 4 years.