thebandit27

Oh good. Another emotionally unhinged character that is unable to discuss Allen without having a tantrum. Address the points of discussion or move on.

I see that he had no response to the question about Watson hitting Neal between the numbers with nothing but end zone in front of him. Again, the agendas some people have are insane. Call it straight up. Allen wasn’t good enough. And his group of playmakers didn’t bail him out any of the 3-4 times they had quality chances to. Nope. Had 2 chances. Didn’t cash.

So not all point totals are equal? Awesome. Whose 19 points were worth more at the end of regulation? That’s a brutal take.

So you missed the easy pick-6 that Siran Neal dropped then huh? Or are you cherry picking?

I am flabbergasted by the number of fans that feel the need to turn every Allen discussion into an either/or scenario. Don't do it. Be smart. It’s both that Allen didn’t play well enough and that his supporting cast didn’t make the plays that they could have made.

Ultimately that’s true. It’s also true, however, that there were several times he made plays that were either called back by penalty, dropped, or were a whiffed block away from setting up the GW FG (looking at you, Knox). Team effort all around.

Read the whole thread before you go noodles

Need to add offensive playmakers...badly. WR1, RB2, TE2, and backup QB should all be prioritized in both draft and FA.

Exactly.

Agreed. My point was that a sweeping generalization that is a de facto fallback to the %age narrative is a sloppy characterization of Allen’s game yesterday. I don’t know why it can’t be both that Allen didn’t play well enough AND that the playmakers around him didn’t capitalize on their opportunities to bail him out by making routine plays.

I like Ahmed. Miles Sanders type though perhaps not as tough. He’s got serious juice though.

Come back when you’re less emotional and we’ll have a more meaningful exchange.

1) yes, yes it is. 2) there’s no reason to give Shaq, Spain, or Phillips an open market value deal.

Yep. What got me more rankled in terms of officiating was that they caught the blindside block but not a critical holding on the 3rd and 18. Oh well, not why they lost. There’s about 10 other plays that make that list first. It was tipped, pretty clear. And yes, the rules specifically state that contact that significantly impedes the QB from making a throw toward an eligible receiver negates an IG call. And yes, it’s absolutely NOT the reason that they lost.

The ball was tipped AND Allen was being contacted and his arm restricted. Read the rules before you spout off.

I don’t know that they need any archetype specifically, but a one-cut/downhill guy that can run stretch plays and set Allen up for PA would be great.

There are zero must-sign players on that list. I’d like to have Spain back, but not at premium guard money since you could move Ford to LG, where he played at Oklahoma for 2 full seasons. Shaq and Jordan are going to get PAID. I’m actually more concerned about LB depth than anything else, and I’d like to get KJ back at a $6M-$7M per year gap deal if he’d take it.

You can’t read if that’s what you think I said. My money is on you are upset about the loss and feel like arguing

That you’d say so most certainly reinforces that I know what I’m seeing. Thanks for the reassurance Oh he didn’t get it done, no question. My point is that the stupidity of hard-and-fast statements line “XX completion percentage won’t get it done” is laughable. It’s always the same thing with Allen discussion: a fair number of people refuse to evaluate on the merits and simply must default to a narrative.

That’s the most false analogy I’ve ever seen. Seriously. In a clutch overtime situation, when pressured, Allen legit made the same play: he hit Singletary on a ridiculous throw for a first down. Am I supposed to blame Allen for Taiwan Jones’ play? That’s really stupid. But it’s clear to me that you are willing to dismiss anything that doesn’t support your point, so I’ll move on. So it’s that 1% that matters? Pretty sure you don’t believe that Singlehandedly? It’s not John Brown for not dragging a foot, or Duke for dropping a TD, or Knox for whiffing on a block that almost certainly clears Allen into easy FG range, or Ford for taking a penalty that denies the team a FG try, or the defense for the 3rd and 18 debacle? Just Allen. Got it. Some if you people are delusional.

Agreed. Tell that to Tannehill, who went 8/15 for 72 yards in a win last night.

There were at least 2 missed holding calls. Also, I have no idea how either IG or illegal touching gets called on a batted pass, let alone both.

So let me see if I get this: putting your WR in position to make a play also counts, but not if it’s John Brown failing to drag his foot at the 3, which could’ve set up a key TD, or Duke dropping a TD, or Duke dropping a first down in OT? Because those things all happened. Did Watson get lucky because Daboll chose to run Frank Gore in key situations twice? You really enjoy duplicitous analyses huh?

It was a horrible call that does not reflect the rules at all. Didn’t lead with his head or shoulder; didn’t make forcible contact at all. Horrible. Didn't cost Buffalo the game since Haus probably doesn’t hit a 55-yarder, but it was brutal.

Let’s see, both lead their teams to 19 regulation points. Both benefited from a turnover that resulted in a FG. Both made spectacular throws to RBs in overtime. Both made great plays with their legs in overtime that put the team in position to kick a GW FG (unfortunately Buffalo caught a penalty after a brutal missed block). Both threw for ~250 yards. What was the biggest difference in the game? I’ll give you 2: timely penalties and plays made by WRs. Oh, and I picked Watson just so you know. And yes, it’s a lot closer than people think.