thebandit27

Yep...point being?

If you read the description then you'd already know the answer to that. You don't need to be spoon-fed. If you think it's irrelevant, then why don't we look at other "scrambling" QBs and see what their Time To Throw looks like? Alex Smith - 2.36 (1st) Russell Wilson - 2.56 (19th) Cam Newton - 2.68 (31st) Marcus Mariota - 2.73 (32nd) Aaron Rodgers - 2.80 (35th) Colin Kaepernick - 2.85 (38th) None of them are above 3 full seconds to throw the ball. Here's what's interesting, let's look at each team's QB hits and sacks allowed: Buffalo - 31 sacks, 59 hits KC - 28 sacks, 58 hits Seattle - 26 sacks, 71 hits Carolina - 27 sacks, 71 hits Tennessee - 18 sacks, 37 hits Green Bay - 24 sacks, 49 hits SF - 28 sacks, 56 hits Wouldn't it make sense that--if it truly was the OL and/or receivers that were the problem--Tyrod would be taking more hits and sacks than the other guys, given how long he holds the ball? He's not, and since he's not particularly good at getting the ball out of his hands, nor is he particularly good at avoiding contact, it only stands to reason that the OL is actually doing quite a good job at protecting him. Compare it to teams like KC, Seattle, Carolina, and SF, whose QBs hold the ball for nearly a half-second less time, yet they still get hit as often or more than Tyrod.

I saw that--good stuff. I have to ask: do you not consider the possibility that both cases are true? That Taylor is very good at extending plays, AND that he often bails from clean pockets too early? I mean, Tyrod is dead last in the NFL in time-to-throw, taking an average of 3.15 seconds per pass. That's 44th among 44 QBs that have played. http://www.nfl.com/stats/ngs/timetothrow

Tell you what, if you're convinced it's otherwise, why not show us? There have been plenty of sources showing otherwise. Start right here: http://www.cover1.net/ I mean, here's a guy with no skin in the game, that watches every game on All-22, every week: Andy Benoit ‏@Andy_Benoit Nov 23 Film: #Bills pass pro was great, but Taylor obscures that w/ tendency to move when it gets a little late in the down (eve if pocket clean). Andy Benoit ‏@Andy_Benoit Nov 23 #Bills #Bengals Film: Taylor no pocket poise early on, moved in a perfect pocket a number of times. Johnson sack was another example. Andy Benoit ‏@Andy_Benoit Nov 23 A QB could go to the Pro Bowl every year if he made half the throws that Tyrod Taylor leaves out on the field each week. Andy Benoit ‏@Andy_Benoit Nov 23 #Bills #Bengals Film: Taylor left a Clay 35-yd TD on the field not targeting trips LOS TE deep post (which was plays design). Andy Benoit ‏@Andy_Benoit Nov 23 #Bills #Bengals Film: 2nd play of game Woods open deep. Taylor, frenetic in a roomy pocket, threw to Bush (RAC made it 18 – still bad QBing)

It's obvious both in the stands and on the All-22 that guys are running open. I have nothing against Tyrod; I'm merely calling it like I see it.

I'm now convinced that you are just messing with us....there's no way that you don't understand what I (and others) have been saying.

Wait, are you really attributing Dak's success to Doug Free, the 32-year old RT who is a former 5th round pick? I'd definitely say that Cole Beasley, Dallas' No. 2 WR, who has 58 receptions and 5 TDs through 11 games has been at least as big a part of his success (if not bigger). I guess I disagree on that. The team has had no difficulty leading the league in rushing two consecutive years with a 7th round pick and a street FA starting at RT. The passing offense, however, has been dismal without 2 productive wideouts on the field. I don't mean to marginalize the position--there's no doubt it's a need. I simply believe that safety and WR are bigger needs, and that RT can be addressed mid-round. A guy like Bisnowaty would be ideal IMO.

Thanks for proving my point--that not one of the other 5 teams that only managed a 1-score victory over Jacksonville has a "yeah but" in their standings either. Every win counts--it seems you're unwilling to concede that

It's not relevant. The NFL has not yet introduced the "yeah but" column to the standings.

You want me to take a bet in which the odds are hugely stacked in your favor? Or did you not understand that I was saying that your prediction is hardly bold at this point?

That's really going out on a limb now that they're in a spot where they need to go 4-1 over their next 5. Quite the risk-taker, aren't you?

Please. Of Jacksonville's 9 losses, 6 have been 1-score games. Those games include losses to Baltimore (6-5), Kansas City (8-3), and Detroit (7-4), so let's not act as though a win by a single TD is somehow damning to the team's playoff chances. How many times over the last decade have you seen NE eek out a win that they probably didn't deserve against an inferior opponent? It happens; wins matter. Now they need to go win the next one.

Oakland is allowing an average of 4.6 YPC on defense, which is tied for 28th in the NFL. Buffalo averages 5.3 YPC on offense, which is 1st in the NFL. No shock to anyone--we need to run the ball at them as often as possible. Let's hope TD Mike can go this week so that we can rack up 30+ carries. Oakland's offensive line has allowed only 13 sacks and 26 QB hits this year--both are good for tops in the NFL. Buffalo's defense has 33 sacks on the year, which ranks 2nd in the NFL. We better hope that Marcell can get on the field this game.

One of his best throws of the season for certain

Maybe not on a pure stat-for-stat basis, but let's be honest: Brady does as much to make NE's run game effective when needed (and that's certainly less often than Buffalo's run game is needed) as Tyrod does for Buffalo's. I'm not saying that to marginalize what Tyrod adds to the run game; I'm really only taking exception to the idea that the performance of the running backs and OL should be marginalized based on what Tyrod has done with his legs.

Without looking, name for me the RT of any of the last 3 Super Bowl Champions. Now, without looking, name for me the #2 WR of any of the last 3 Super Bowl Champions.

Good context as usual dave. For me, it's less about sheer quantity and more about how much more effective the offense could have been had he been targeted more on the passing plays that they did call. It's tough to see him out there running open and have the QB rarely looking to get him the ball.

No, you made a comment that had literally nothing to do with my post. You apparently decided that my statement about Watkins was a microcosm of TSW's negativity over the last 2 weeks, which is simply an ignorant position to take. If you have no desire to inform yourself before commenting, preferring instead to shoot from the hip, it would be prudent to be prepared to accept correction when you misfire. If you consider my response to you as "blowing a gasket", then I dare suggest that debate simply isn't for you, because it was actually quite calm and measured.

Nope, but here: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/index.php?app=forums&module=extras&section=boardrules "just use some common sense" I felt that paying attention to what's going on in a thread was common sense. My apologies if that upsets you--feel free to use that tissue that I didn't need.

Unfortunately, that means that they need to find a way to win one of the next two, which won't be easy. I actually think that they match up okay against both, but that's with Darby in the lineup (despite how poor a season he's had). But that's all conjecture, so hey, let's go beat Oakland and we'll talk.

Oh, so rather than own up to the fact that you read a single post and made a faulty assumption, you'd rather mis-play the "you can't take it" card? Nice work It was a silly post that responded to the wrong person and has no relevance to the discussion...but other than that, it was salient and enlightening! If you want to participate, pay attention. That is all.

I just played with the ESPN playoff machine, and here's the low-down: If the team goes 4-1 the rest of the way, with the only loss coming to a non-division team, they're extremely likely to get in...I base this on the fact that the machine puts them as the 6th seed with a 10-6 record (wins against Miami and the Jets are non-negotiable) and the remainder of the schedule playing out in favor of the team with the higher win percentage.

I was a Gabe Jackson guy as well (for the record, I was also a Miller guy, but I didn't--and don't--think he's on the same level as Jackson). I think, overall, Oakland's interior is better with Osemele-Hudson-Jackson, but Dallas has better tackles.

You've picked an awful, awful target to try to make this point. Pay attention to the discussion. I haven't once said that he should get the ball on every play, or that he should get the target on every pass, or anything that should even remotely hint at an assertion that should evoke such a response from a rational person. What I've said repeatedly is that the guy was open far more often than he was targeted, and that it needs to change if the offense hopes to put up more than 160 passing yards per game. Case-in-point: the only 2 targets he received beyond 20 yards lead directly to TD scores. The other 2 TDs came on a big run by Shady and a big punt return by Tate. The thread topic is Watkins and his utilization, so I'm on topic. If you don't like the topic, then either (a) don't click on it, or (b) take it up with the OP.