May Day 10

Yes, someone at the top. Can organize everything below him whether or not that includes Whaley, Rex, Overdorf, the equipment guys, people in charge of headsets/communications... whoever. Here is your contract, here is a clean slate. Make us a model franchise. This organization has a systemic precondition of failure and has lacked real leadership for over a decade. This organization is not cursed. Refs, injuries, "no QB", coaches, headset failures, botched challenges, small market, no continuity, etc are symptoms. If they trash Rex and get the next guy, the losses and disfunction will continue. If they trash Whaley and keep the rest intact, the losses and disfunction will continue. They need someone at the rudder of the football department who is not the Pegulas or Russ Brandon and at long last REAL changes need to be made, a unified direction to make this a top football program that is sustainable. Rex's WWE crap and constant FO "agenda pushing" is not a sustainable model.

The Bills desperately need someone from the outside to come in and fix this. The organization is broken. 16 years of no playoffs, with a coach who has a huge deal and high-paid players chirping at him through the media. We have obvious pushing of agendas from the FO in the media. It isnt going to get better like this. Its going to hit the rocks I feel like the Bills are stuck in the stone age and someone needs to bring them into the times. Casserly and/or Wolf would have been good. Someone who is smart, knows the current NFL, well respected, has a lot of contacts, and has been involved in winning. TBH if its a challenge he would be interested in, Bill Cowher might be good. Or maybe someone like Polian. Pay him, waltzes in, fixes the thing, and steps out, allowing the GM to run the show.

I think a director of football or "Czar" will build the football program and oversee all aspects. Look into every detail to get this organization on a winning page. Choose a GM with the same vision. They choose a head coach with the same vision. They all assemble the rest of the staff. Right now, and for the past number of years, there seems to be too many cooks, the cooks are sloppy and pull in different directions. You have Pegula, Brandon, Whaley, and now Rex. The Jets were very smart in hiring 2 of them in Casserly and Wolf, blocking the Bills

I was all about the rex hire. Even hoping after like week 5 last year the Jets would suck and fire him so we can get him. Very pumped when they got him. However, everything that people warned us about has come to fruition and is painfully obvious. I was even in denial after the Pats game. Coaches in this league don't win by pounding their chests. They win by privately obsessing over every detail for that week's game and getting their players ready. It was a bad decision. Maybe he catches lighting in a bottle once or twice in 5 years and they get a wild card. It doesn't seem like it being fans of this.... team, but odds are every team should. The fact the last HC walked away and that it seems like Whaley was largely bypassed by owners and upper management to hire Rex Ryan to a huge deal is troubling and not indicative of a successful football program. Then they also signed away a ton of money to players who now are seemingly unhappy. I am surprised that Pegula didnt have a guy in mind/place last october and seemed to be scrambling to court Polian last January when things kind of hit the fan. Its not too late to start now. Things will hit the rocks with this structure.... I cant believe we are seeing it happen already a bit. Might as well rip off the band-aid now and build the program.

I just want to see someone from the outside who has success in the nfl brought in at a high level, and build from the top down. Nobody there has a clue on how to win in the nfl and it shows on the field. I don't care if the guy wants to tear it down to the studs and we need to go through a few 2 win seasons to get there... I am done with 5 to 8 win seasons. I want a sustainably good football program. Rex Ryans WWE crap isn't that.

Almost all the Patriot coordinators go up in flames... maybe all? Is Obrien good?

He was like "receiver is the guy who catches the ball, right?"

Team is a hideous embarrassment

One common denominator

Yes!!!!

So sick of this disfunction and Perpetual embarrassment. They need a leader to build the program from the top down. This is definitely a continuation of the whaley went rogue thing

No. I'm just used to it. 2004 hurt worse because they were so close... and I remembered what being in the playoffs was like

It's true. Been happening all year. Last year there was crap too. They have lacked leadership forever and it shows with this perpetual garbage

Definitely another kinniving leak from obd. Can't be anyone else but brandon at this point imo.

I kind of agree. "Rooting for" the Yankees is kind of... cheap. The commonality of their titles and the fact that they were supposed to win it pretty much from 1998 to 2012ish. I have known way too many "fans" who say they like the yankees, but can't be bothered to watch any games or know what's going on until the alcs. When the yankees win the eorld series.... it doesnt even seem that awesome for their fans. Then you have that new death star stadium with no atmosphere and you see nothing but yuppies in the good seats on tv. Basically. I can't understand anyone from buffalo rooting for the yankees. They are pretty much the opposite of buffalo sports.

Nope. Bills sabres and indians are the only teams I'm emotionally attached to

Im local now, but for 07-11 I lived in Philly. Pretty much any meaningful game I would drive in for. I shared a pair (actually a group of 8) so any game I couldnt go to, they would try to find someone else or Id eat the ticket. On the drive after games (even the morning after), I would see cars decked out in Bills stuff all the way down to Binghamton on the 81 and even beyond.

thought it was almost perfect for a star wars movie. I have a couple minor points of contention Ill bring up once everyone sees it who wants to see it

I'm for bringing someone in with everything in place and let him make any changes they see fit.... or keep anything the same. The organization just needs eyes and a revamp. Its going to happen... the problem is, I think we are going to have to wait this current structure out a few years. Kind of like what Pegula did with the Sabres

I get the continuity argument and it would be foolish/stupid to just dump Rex now. What they need to do and have needed since forever... is to install someone at the top of the pyramid who knows how to build a winning football program from the top down. Change the thing and start over as a 'new' franchise. The Bills are broken. Had an aberration of about 6-8 years where they were good. Other than that, loser organization who needs someone to show them how to win. All the inventive ways they have lost games over the years is not a coincidence or a curse and it will keep happening. The current course with a GM and coach who each report to the green owners and head coach who is loud, below .500, and instills a culture where players aren't accountable and can run their mouths, get stupid penalties, etc.... is doomed to fall apart worse than now. Winning in this league is done with business, not emotion. You need to be in control and do the homework during the offseason/week.

The kid was barely alive for the glory year of 2004 and we're going to trust him as gm?

people need to come to terms with the fact that Rex will be here for next season... and probably the season after that at a minimum. The Pegulas will not pull the plug on this one year in... the fact that he spoke at the WJC presser also speaks to the fact that he is still in good graces of the company. Just accept it and sit back. He will either crash and burn or turn the thing around. Let him run the show, have the coordinators he wants, run the schemes he wants. Let him succeed or fail. The Pegulas DO want to win and if Rex is on the back half of that contract and things are a tire fire, they will try something else. Like I said before. The Whaley thing scares me a bit. Only because it seems like there is some sort of rift(s) going on there behind the scenes between somebodies... and it seems out of all the 'power brokers' at OBD, Whaley is absolutely on the weakest footing. IMO we really need his drafting to continue.

If you told me (or anyone) in August that the Bills would have a starting QB rated 101 in week 14 with about 400 rushing yards... I would have been wondering who the Bills would have to play in the Divisional Round after the bye

Ultimately, I would love to hire a man at the top and give him free reign and top budget to build a winning program from the top down, with attention given to every detail. The reality is though, we are going to see how Rex is doing for at least one, more likely at least 2-3 more seasons. Also have committed cap money. So Rex IS staying. Let him keep his staff, do what he wants there. Anything that happens is on him. Also, keep Whaley. He gets an A from me for drafting so far. Like Rex, let him go a few years and either succeed or fall short.

2 of them willingly walked away from the team into coaching abyss, one of them is incumbent of one year, and others include "Affect the head" Williams, Jauron, and Gailey. They need someone at the top to build a program from the top-down. There continues to be some level of disfunction there... whether its under Pegula or under Wilson. The little turds one of these guys lays to the media (like Whaley going rogue, Manuel going to be the starter if he does well in London, all the crap last year, possibly the Whaley contract thing from last week, etc...) shows this. With that said, Pegula isnt going to make a huge change. He committed to Rex and some of the players. They need to ride this out awhile.