Shanahan's Horseshoe

You sound incredibly dumb. "Mofo", "Wit", "He want to"..you sound like someone who's opinion I want to take seriously. Comparing hunting to dogfighting is the pinnacle ignorance. Good luck "wit dat" gangsta!

Wow, German reisling talk on TBD! I like the occasional Spatlese, especially on thanksgiving. The whole contrast between the sweet and the acidic gets me everytime. I would have been much happier to see Donte tippin back a Cotes du Rhone or a big Cali Cab...OH MY GOD, I GOT SUCKED INTO THE GAYNESS TOO!!!!!!!!!!

It's amazing that you would be so opinionated yet so illinformed. He authorized dogs to be killed and he did the killing, which he admitted to only after he failed a lie detector test. Moreover, HE FUNDED THE ENTIRE OPERATION!!!!! http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3718304 Your logic about the cell phone is crazy by the way. So if someone calls in a hit or does the hit, one is worse than the other?And yes, people make mistakes. People also do horrible evil sh*t too. He took part in the torture and funded an entire operation that killed and tortured dogs. Thats not a mistake, that is some cold blooded sh*t.

We all know about your bromantic relationship with Donte, but even you will have to admit that tippin back some sweet white wine at 1PM is pretty gay.

I can't wait to watch him fail. Let's not forget that he killed dogs. Not by gunshot or injection, but by drowning, electrocution and hanging. He is a sub-human scumbag who's sociopathic ways came back to bite him in the ass (Hopefully prison ----- him in the ass too!). Any team that picks him up is making a deal with the devil and that never works. Burn in hell Mike Vick!

Again, you and the rest of "Pay Peters Camp" are right. He will get paid but it won't be by the Bills at his asking price. Did you guys forget who signs the checks at OBD? The highest paid player in Bills history will not be JPeters, so get used to #71 in a different uniform.

Why I think you're giving a little to much credit to Peters, YOU"RE RIGHT! But that little 2,3,4 million dollar gap per year is signicant when we are discussing the Bills. If he were an Cowboy I would be saying, just pay the guy! But these are the Buffalo Bills and spending 10% of the cap on a guy who is good, not great, is just not going to happen. Maybe I'm just preparing myself for the inevitable, a large hole at LT.

GD , I am trying to have an office/admin day and this board is killing it! I agree The Dean, but has he shown enough to justify an 11-12/per contract? I don't think anyone is saying that he's not good, but is he great? Will the Bills be greatly overpaying for him at his asking price? I say there is almost no way to argue that they will be overpaying by alot. Look what overpaying players has gotten us, no pass rush and former soft LG.

You are truly the Da Vinci of TBD!

Again, is he worth 11-12 million per?

OJSimpson said it best, even after the combine BS he still will be picked high. Why? Because at the end of the day, the tape doesn't show his minny meltdown, it shows him dominating Greg Hardy, Sapp and Dunlap.

So showing up completely out of shape and unprepared is okay because he missed training camp? This ain't Baseball where guys get fat and then come to spring training to get into shape. Football, because of it's physical nature takes a year round conditioning effort. So who's fault is it that he didn't show up? He has one good season and all of a sudden he's Anthony Munoz and wants to get paid like a great LT? I think the easy way to get to the core of this argument and be as objective as possible is to simply ask the question, Does Jason Peters deserve the 11-12 million per year that he is wants? I say no because a guy that gets paid like that should be an absolute game changer. I think Peters is good but he is not even close to what Pace, Ogden or Jones were in their prime. And since those 3 guys are/were his great contemporaries he should be judged against them and he's not even close.

I get it, I play a little. That being said, I'm not going to write up a Madden draft prospectus and post it online.

So Edwards is gonna throw for 3500 yds and 33TD's to JUST his 1-4 WR's?

Check that H20, you may have competition.

Then that cements your status as the the #1 overall prospect!

I have you rated #1 overall in the "needs to get laid" category.

Good call, except Sapp's vice was Chronic and Smith's seems to be doughnuts.

Actually being a single guy in Buffalo is great because it's really easy to pick up chicks when all of the other guys that you're competing against are wearing Bills Zubaz.

Bills fans live in this myopic little world where every pass rusher has to be Bruce, every charachter guy is Phill Hansen and every QB from California is a burnout loser with long hair. Anyone who has watched an Alabama game in the last 3 years knows what Andre Smith can do. Are there charachter issues? Of course there are... for him and every other prospect. Mike Williams never came close to what Smith's done on the field but because the tub of lard was the Bill's most famous bust, Andre Smith is his clone.

Is she wearing Vince Wolfork's neck?

Again, take off the shirts of 90% of the offensive lineman in the NFL and it will not be impressive. Hell, I bet you got teets! The guy dominated in the best conference in football for 3 years. He came into college as the most hyped OL in years and he did nothing but exceed expectation.

Bad example because you're forgetting about one of the best scenes from Fletch.

They should invite Evans so he can teach them all how to catch the ball.