Shanahan's Horseshoe

he is 900 years old. Pass

A young Brian Dawkins? Wow, what Bills games have you been watching? What has he done to be compared to a future Hall of Famer? You must be one of those guys comparing Trent to Tom Brady after week 6 too....

A better way to ask that question is, does he think his play has justified where he was selected in the draft?

A great player makes plays! If he was such a playmaker, WHY IN THE HELL WOULDN"T THE BILLS PUT HIM IN "SPOTS" TO MAKE PLAYS!!?? This argument is absurd! Coaches know he has limitations! By your logic, if Ed Reed was a Buffalo Bill he wouldn't get to the ball because we don't have a pass rush? The bottom line is that since Donte Whitner has been a Bill, teams have thrown the ball 1572 times! Thats the ball going in the air over 1400 TIMES (plus/minus for injuries) when Donte is back in the secondary. He has 2 ints and 7 pass deelctions for a grand total of 9 times that he has touched the ball when it was in the air! I don't care if the Bills D sucks or the playcalling isn't "putting" him in spots, 9 TIMES out of 1400+ passes SUCKS! Quit making excuses for an average player. That being said, I am not in favor of cutting him.

And someone who never played a down in his life would look at that film and not realize that it was terrible tackling technique. I wonder if Donte was asked the question, "what happened on that play?" I bet he wouldn't use injury as an excuse.

Who knew Lee Majors had a music career! That is one of the greatest things I've ever read!!!!!!

In other news, the Bills have contacted Erik Flowers in hopes of giving their pass rush a boost!

It should say, "Why not Ngata?"

You are right, that spelling is embarrassing. Lucky I'm not an English teacher. I never said I would get up without a grimace but to lay there like he had a neck injury was overplayed IMO. Plus, you are missing the point, poor technique was the reason why he was left crying on his back, not a bum wing.

Funny that you say that because I have seperated my shoulder and I also tore my labrum on the same shoulder. My shoulder is miserable to this day but if you dont think the reason why he layed there was partly due to embassment YOU SIR, are an idiot!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmRszdeJs5s You might want to watch it again. Donte tries to put his head down, Sammy gets lower and thats how that happened. Football 101: The low man always wins! And if you think the only reason that he layed there on the field was because he was hurt you are an idiot! He was embarASSed (because SM knocked him on hi A**) and he got sympathy from all of the Donte lovers. AND IT WORKED!!! A seperated schoulder is brutal but it doesn't keep you on your back.

You might wanna watch the play again Ramius! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmRszdeJs5s

Yeah and thats called playing football. Why make excuses for him? Its called it poor tackling technique. Sammy is 230lbs and DW is 200lbs. You dont put your head down, you take his legs out... Football 101. If you are on the field there are no excuses. Its not like that was the first time he was run over, blown by, took a bad angle or straight up whiffed on a tackle. All the Donte lovers do is make excuses for the guy! No pass rush, he was hurt, lack of talent around him. Green Bay's S Nick Collins had a great season and his defense was terrible! Adrian Wilson has played on terrible defenses but has always performed at a pro bowl level. Niether defense is loaded with talent and both teams only had a few more sacks then the Bills. Players make plays regardless of who is around them, DW is just not a very good player.

Games logs are not going to tell you how he gets engulfed in the box. Remember the Sammy Morris hit? Down in the box right? Yeah I know, that was probably the only time he was down in the box since the Youghboty injury. And the reason, genius, why he has made so many tackles in the past is because the Bills front seven has been awful since he has been here. Triplett, Williams, Kelsey, John D, Poz, and Ellison are not exactly making plays on the other side of the LOS. Face it, he is limited and the coaches know that. I am not saying he sucks, he's just not the "elite" safety that some MADE hime out to be. He is an average safety who will never approach greatness.

The Bills have suffered from an overall lack of talent for so long that fans try to make something out of a player that just isnt there. The reason Donte isnt put into robber ("freelance" in Dean's non football lingo) type coverages is because he lacks the instincts and ball skills to make a play on the ball and the coaches know that. The reason why they stopped using him down in the box was because he was getting washed out anytime he was put there (long before his injury). The Bills fans fell in love with him and attributed a lot of the early season success to him because of his (failed) prediction and his cheapshot on the Raiders 4th string WR. The bottom line on Whitner is that he will never be an impact type player because his skill set is limited. He is small, does not play with speed and has zero ball skills. So Donte haters, lower your expectations of him! Be happy that he is versatile, generally healthy and respected leader.

He yelled a lot? McCargo didn't develop because he showed up fat and out of shape year after year. He was lazy at NC State and is lazy here. A coach can only take you so far. And the rest of the Dline outside of Stroud are all backups. I could care less about Kollar because Dline coaches are a dime a dozen, they aren't teaching crazy new techniques. BTW, most coaches yell.

Are you serious about Yabouty? Dude hasn't been on the field since he got here! Let me guess, you went to The Division 3 College of Ohio State. Stroud played next to K. Williams, Deney and Kelsey this year! Teams doubled the snot out the guy all year long! Please go back and watch how many times he blew plays up by penetrating the LOS. Yabouty really?

Nobody knows how good Sanchez is going to be because he hasn't played anybody. I would stay away from him because USC offensive players have don sh*t in the NFL. Trade up for Orakpo please!

He was easily the best player on our defense this year. Look at the weak cast that he plays with! There is not one player in that front seven that could not easily be replaced. He consistantly played on the other side of the LOS and faced double teams. While fan favorites like Poz and Whitner somehow don't face scrutiny, Stroud was the only player that WAS Pro Bowl worthy on this team. PAY HIM!

Who cares about Chris Carter, DID YOU SEE JARED ALLEN"S MULLET!!!!!!

I almost picked off Delhomme last night

If Marshawn did this at a Bills game everyone would be laughing and there would be no moral discussion.

You sound like you are a 100 years old! What is this, "Footloose"? Your "hoier than thou" BS is tired and lame. She dresses like a stripper and doesn't expect to get a reaction in a College setting? She couldn't press charges if she wanted to because he did nothing other than get a laugh at her expense, something that you are more than familiar with. Disrespectful? Maybe if this were church.

That is the first time that I smiled at something related to the Bills in a long time. Both of them are class acts and great players. Now if we could just do something about our coach.......

So predictable. Putting what Mauluga did and what you are implying in the smae category is not only dramatic, its offensive. I posted this for a good laugh and somehow it turned into a moral discussion. IF and I say IF, you really think this is that bad, please dont ever go to a Bills home game.