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Via those conservative rags Vox and the New York Times https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/21/17139300/economic-mobility-study-race-black-white-women-men-incarceration-income-chetty-hendren-jones-porter Edit to add: strange how racism has affected black women so much less than black men. They're only about 30% more likely to be incarcerated than white women raised with the same family income.
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Black men raised by millionaires - the top one percent - are as likely to be incarcerated as white men raised in households with $36,000 in income.
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I hate when socioeconomic factors make 13% of the population commit over half of the homicides. I hate when the socioeconomic factors make the upper quintile SES members of one group commit more crime than the second-lowest quintile SES members of another. I hate when socioeconomic factors make men commit like 95% of crime.
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In two posts he went from "it's not happening" to "it's happening and you had it coming." Incredible.
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I hate it when socioeconomic factors force people to steal cars and then crash them at high rates of speed into unsuspecting motorists.
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4 Detroit Lions suspended for gambling violations
LeviF replied to Chandler#81's topic in The Stadium Wall
Because that billions you mention is put in real jeopardy when the gambling companies and the shield can't guarantee that all games are played on the up-and-up. -
Hey you Do you remember me I used to sit next to you at school And we indulged in all the extra-curricular activities We weren't particularly cool Monday cycling Tuesday gymnastics Dancing on a Friday night I got bridge club on Wednesday Archery on Thursday Dancing on a Friday night
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"Statistics are racist." Which is why the Obama and Biden admins made/are making it harder to access crime data.
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I'm well aware of the numbers. But the OP is talking about a specific subset of crime and the victimization burden thereof. That you want to pull the wool over people's eyes doesn't change the numbers. Whites are about 5 times as numerous as blacks. But the number of victims of white on white crime is not 5 times as high as the number of victims of black on white crime. Curious! Additionally, from my earlier link:
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I've provided both homicide data and violent crime data generally (excluding homicide, but we can add the UCR stats to the NCVS stats if you want quick and dirty math). The NCVS is violent crime other than homicide, in 2019 that split was 84/16 black on white/white on black. The UCR homicide stats split was 70/30. Homicide being rarer than the other violent crimes the final figure will be closer to the 84/16 than the 70/30. But in both cases the victimization burden is much higher for whites than for blacks when speaking on interracial crime.
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And in 2019 the figure is close to 70% as well. So that number has some staying power. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls
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As I implied but did not explicitly state: the NCVS doesn't capture homicide victimization because homicide victims are a tough interview. And again, you aren't engaging the OP. He stated "violent crime." Which is what I addressed. But in regard to homicide, in 2013 there were 598 homicides in which the races of both victim and offender were known and one was black while the other white. Over 68% of these cases were black on white homicide. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls
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That's fine. I produced a couple. Engage the data. The 2019 split according to the NCVS is closer to 84/16 than OP's figure of 85/15. So yeah totally bad faith poasting.
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No, it's not. The OP specified interracial crime splits.
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The NCVS isn't perfect but is an important add-on in the conversation. https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv19.pdf
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A 2011 report by the Obama admin found that between 1980 and 2008, black homicide offenders were more than 7x as numerous per capita as white homicide offenders. Meanwhile 84% of white homicide victims were killed by other whites and 93% of black homicide victims were killed by other blacks. The majority of violent crime is intraracial, but whites bear the victimization burden of interracial crime (particularly homicides) at a higher rate. https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/homicide-trends-united-states-1980-2008
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Fixed your post for you