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So it's ok to do whatever you want as long as the girl is really drunk and can't remember if she really said no or only just sort of said no. Got it.

And yet he still didn't stop. And that's apparently ok with a lot of people. The reason doesn't matter. If she said stop for any reason he should have stopped. This whole idea that she didn't SPECIFICALLY say what she didn't want him to do so it's ok for him to finish is pretty messed up.

Riiight... because if she says, "This isn't OK" she must just really want it.

Who cares? I'm sure any of the guys on the roster can play halfassed and drop balls like TO did. They won more games the previous 3 years without TO. Why should they be worried about replacing him?

I'm not worried about Byrd "just being lucky" or anything else because he wasn't a fluke. He wasn't a guy who came out of nowhere on a good team and did something he'd never done before. He was a ballhawk coming out of college. He wasn't benefiting from a stacked team. He was successful because he is smart and knows where to be. He studies and puts himself in a position to be successful. Maybe he won't have as many INTs next year (who knows?) but he's not going to disappear either.

Isn't that Kong?

Most of the time Kelly is talking about the team he's talking out of his ass. I'm not saying he doesn't mean well, but I'm getting a little sick of hearing from ex-players about the state of the franchise. Darryl Talley's drunken tweets are one thing, but until Kelly's "ownership group" or whatever steps up and does something I don't really care what he says publicly.

Don't forget either that the Bills played last season without an Offensive Coordinator. Not saying that Edwards is suddenly going to be Peyton Manning, but it should help to have someone who has had success calling plays this year.

Posted on the website yesterday. Posted on Youtube in September.

I wanted him so bad. I'm kind of glad San Francisco took him before the Bills picked though. If he'd still been there and the Bills passed on him it would have been a terrible feeling. At least this way I can chalk it up to fate instead of incompetence.

Will this mean the return of the Bud Bowl???

He hasn't been convicted in the public either. There are plenty of people defending him, but you're right in that public image is really the issue. If part of your job meant presenting a good public image for your company and you have twice been caught in a situation that presented a bad public image, then regardless of whether or not there was "enough evidence" the company has a right to discipline you. Plenty of professional athletes get laid without being accused of rape. Whether Ben did it or not he's putting himself in a very uncomfortable place for the NFL. That's the tradeoff for making millions of dollars for playing a kid's game. You have to play by their rules.

Or what happened to the security tape. Poor Ben.

I'm not sure that matters.

Yeah, but who really knows since it's conveniently gone.

It helps that the police "lost" the security tape from the night that would have shown what really happened. I'm sure that was just an accident though... Link

Of the six coaches since 2000, only three have been retreads (Phillips, Jauron, Gailey). The other three were first time hires (Williams, Mularkey, Fewell).

The difference is those decisions worked out as those teams improved dramatically when they made those moves. The Bills are on their 5th head coach in 10 years (6 if you count Fewell) and still haven't been to the playoffs. That's not the sign of a well run team and the only constant in that time has been Ralph Wilson. It's not exactly a stretch to point fingers in his direction. That said, Mortensen has been bitter about the Bills firing his friend Tom Donahoe for years. I mean the Bills have also been terrible for years, so it's not that he's entirely unjustified in slamming them, but the I think a lot of the hostility stems from Donahoe's reign as GM.

Actually he has two rings.

Carey Bender is coming out of retirement to retake his rightful place as the "The Pride of Coe College" on the Bills.

Yes. 25-32 as a starter. Means the Bills would probably be about where they are right now.

I guess so.

Well the OP's focus is on 1st round and/or 1st picks in the draft and their ability to..well... I'll just quote it: So Byrd being a 2nd rounder and 3rd selection by the Bills in the draft wouldn't fit either.

Going back to the OP it seems like we're defining impact player as a player "able to make an impact or contribute right away." Moulds was considered by some to be a bust until he finally broke out in his third year. Over his first 2 seasons he only started 13 games and caught 49 passes and 2 TDs. Based on the definition alone Lynch is probably the closest since he was a 1000 yard rusher as a rookie.

Damn those Lie-berals! Always keeping hockey down! If it wasn't for Hillary Clinton hockey would be one of the most popular sports in the USA!