WhitewalkerInPhilly

Hey, the Bills do fine in Orchard Park, I don't think having a majority of Bills fans in attendance will be a problem

That's what makes me think that Jones is expected to be back sooner than later. If they think he's good to go, then there is no doubt that he's an upgrade.

In my mind that tells me that Jones is ready to start sooner rather than later. Maybe not this week, but soon.

I hadn't heard anything about Phillips being on IR? EDIT: Apparently he is. That means he's out for the rest of the regular season. Back for playoffs?

That was my next comment. It's the only reason I can think of because someone ran the numbers and in Week 18 the Bills v Dolphins is the most likely to have some kind of playoff implication. Even if it's not for the division, it's almost certain that one or both teams will be playing for some kind of seeding. Even if not, I saw that when people ran out sims it's the game most likely to have some kind of seeding implication

Are they allergic to ratings?

I am not taking the point spread. I think the Bills win, but I think just getting out with a win is enough

Plenty, but mostly prep for Christmas Day: Hasselbeck potato gratin to freeze and bake Start slow cooking pork bell roast Season lamb racks

Honestly, I am with you. Anchor Bar ships their sauce over Amazon. Our home cooking methods get us a superior product so I should just stick to that rather than be continually disappointed. Unless we want to make our own Wing Shop...

Yeah, the Jersey part of the Philly suburbs. That particular place is called Southwood and would be an ideal dive were it not for the travesty of wings. I have a few places I have been to that I find tolerable: the Jug Handle Inn and Warwick Tavern bread theirs but not too badly and they have good sauce. I have tried Golden Nugget, Schileens, and Dominics and was unimpressed. Mount Royal Inn had the proper fry (the owners are WNY ex-pats) but the sauce was subpar. There was a placed called Miss Heavens right by me that was supposed to be "best in the state" and I literally spit some of it out. I sometimes literally dip my finger into salt, and their lemon pepper was too salty for me and the Buffalo was a disappointment.

yeah that is the best result I've even got. You can load up at the first stage too then smaller batch fry

My only quibble is that I don't have a convection oven (yet) and I refuse to buy an on the counter air fryer when i have too many cooking gadgets already. So the next house. Because that method makes perfect sense to me and sounds like a perfect option for large batch preparation before high volume day. The oil has the advantage of the fact that I need to use it anyway to fry in the end stage but it comes with a major downside: if you want to use the same oil you have to heat the hell out of it to get the lingering moisture out It's nice chatting with people who take wings seriously For me, there are degrees. Naked is classic. But I think a thin and carefully chosen coating can give you the crunch without the downsides. And then you get travesties like this "well regarded local place" in my town. F'n travesty that is.

"And to this day, games in Miami are silent"

Chicken feet are a staple at the Chinese dim sum houses by me. They didn't taste wing like, but it's one of those things where they are very much vehicles for sauce and spitting out the bones is accepted practice

You know, I'll be honest: cauliflower that is coated in rice flour and fried is absolutely delicious. It holds up to sauce ok as well. I will happily eat some. But it ain't wings. I know Korea does a version where wings are fried in an incredible thin crisp batter for their fried chicken, and have the sweet and sticky double fry wings too. I bet that wok stir fried wings with garlic, ginger and chili crisp would be amazing too. EDIT: my only problem with that video is that the very basic French technique I've been taught is screaming that he's overcrowding the pan and not going to get a good sear adding the vegetable too soon

To be fair that's pretty much all they win

Scratches neck Ya'll got anymore of that "not terrible wing sauce"

That was from some of the staff that left Bar Bill, right? Do they sell their sauce?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa...can can put a man in motion to get a matchup you like? Did anyone tell Ken Dorsey?

Same status as yesterday then. Hyde and Espenensa likely back, Phillips out

Unrelated, does anyone know where to get a sauce that is similar to Bar Bill's Hot? Anchor Bar ships, and that's ok, but I would love another option. I like a strong burn that where for the last two wings I indulge in some blue cheese.

Also as a Public Service Announcement: Boneless Wings are not wings. They are breasts meat covered with breading and fried and tossed in sauce. If you want sauced nuggies, that's fine, let's not mistake them.

Pretty much what I've found. I have to ask for extra crispy or well done and THEN put sauce on them or they are flabby. I didn't think it was a big deal until about two years ago I drove back for a funeral and stopped at Bar Bill. Whatever you say about them locally, having real WNY wings was a shock to the system and nothing local has tasted right since.

I mean, he absolutely deserved it!