WhitewalkerInPhilly

Don't see the link, would really appreciate a repost. Really? Name for me the things that Sammy Watkins does that Mike Williams cannot. Please. This is a sincere request. I've been looking over Mike Williams tape, and I have been nothing but impressed. I don't mind a 1-2 punch, but I still don't see a clear #1.

Admittedly, I do not have a depth of personal experience. I have not broken down tape, and I fully admit that I may be wrong. That said, most reports I heard about have Watkins being a very diverse, very well rounded, skilled at screen play WR. Considering that EJ showed inaccuracy in screens, which could discount his worth. Considering (repeating YET A FCKINGGAIN) that his measurables and play style seem nigh identical to Mike Williams. Considering the price the Bills paid for him, that price demands immediate production. If he meets it, fan!@#$ingtastic.

I did not see that article, as I don't live where the Buffalo News is easily accessible. Look, "Professional Kool-Aid Drinker" is part of my bit. And if Watkins is really that amazing, I will cheer loudly for him. But a nagging part of me keeps asking "Really?"

I don't think I ever said foolish. I will stick with risky. As I have said multiple times, Sammy Watkins' skill set sounds almost exactly like Mile Williams. Both are 6'1-6'2, both are of similar speed (4.4-4.5), both have a great vertical, both have great route running, with an advantage to Williams with experience knowing that he has thrived in the league. Spending as much as we did makes Watkins a definitive #1 guy. Is he? With everyone we have? Is he?

No, I would consider it giving up two first round picks (2014 & 2015) and and fourth round pick for one first round pick. It's costly. I dare anyone to contest that. The hope is that Watkins is so epic that is worth it. We will see. Especially with a WR group which now looks overwhelmed.

*SIgh* Yes it does. *Breathes* I'm happy that EJ is happy. That said, I would have guessed Evans of Benjamin would have been better picks.

Alright...now that I have calmed down down for a moment. And now that I am resisting the twitch of Mike Evans going #7 Watkins better motherf*cking own it. This year. This F*cking year. That seems rational, right?

This is the one thing I won't quibble about. Eric Moulds was not a small player. Watkins is talented. Dear crap, I don't think he is worth what we traded, but he's talented and "plays bigger than 6'1" Then again, so does Mike Williams. Have we traded Stevie yet?

I am full of patience. What I am not full of is taking someone who seems like a gorramdamn clone of Mike Williams, while giving up a ton of picks in the process, leaving us overwhelmed at WR while having a sh*t ROT, a TE position which hasn't been relevant since Reimersma and a missing FS.

So...those rumors about trading Stevie? I mean, I love him, but we really need something now...

*Sigh* I honestly don't like the pick. I really don't. I mean, I like Sammy Watkins, but really, we paid too much for it... Well, he has this season to prove me wrong.

Goddamn, they really must have liked him

Would you prefer the State University of New York at Buffalo?

Fair enough. If they don't go Ebron in Round 1, but take ASJ/Niklas, I would be thrilled. But the idea freaks me out a hell of a lot less than a receiver (Beckham) who is Robert Woods 2.0, who is in turn Stevie Johnson 1.5.

Yeah, that's been there for a while. It's been our time for 14 f ing years.

Wow. Lotta Ebron hate.

I have to ask, who will make you freak out if the Bills stay exactly where they are, and choose. For me, it's Beckham, and I am currently preparing sacrificial rites in hope this does not happen and these new reports are driving me insane. He just doesn't seem like a good fit for what we want to do, with who we already have. Even Donald or Martin wouldn't do that to me, even if I think that they aren't going to be BPA at 9.

If I only have one guess, it's ebron at 9.

I'm not ragging on the guy. I just don't think that the improvement he would bring is worth the improvement we'd see from any of the other top 5 picks, never mind the cumulative benefit of a Top 10 pick this year, our first round next year, and likely several other picks as well.

I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. Yes, Mack is an excellent athlete, and we could find a way to use him. But we would have to shuffle players, because we already have a decent set of OLBs in Kiko and Lawson, and Mack is less suited as a MLB. It is one thing if the skies clear, light shines down from the heavens and he falls to you, and another to burn a monstrous amount of picks from this year, and possibly next to take someone at 3 who doesn't immediately be a game changer at that spot.

I mostly agree with you, but I don't think Sammy Watkins is the guy. I know, heresy. But we just traded for Mike Williams, who is of similar stature (6'2 to 6'1 and a couple more pounds), is only a hair slower (4.5 to 4.4) and already has a proven track record as an extremely good route runner, with an impressive vertical and ball skills. We already have a Sammy Watkins mold veteran in a very reasonable contract, so I would trade up for Mike Evans before I would Sammy Watkins.

I will state for the record that in the pre-draft days of 2012 I argued fiercely that a little bit of college drinking wasn't going to mean that Blackmon would necessarily have character issues. I was wr-wr-wr....wrong. (whew) Of course, similar concerns were made as to Kiko after the Bills took him last year and thus far I haven't heard a peep about anything going wrong.

Hey!...Oh Wait, you meant the other guy.

Answer: This is the game I like to bring up. Goodwin was matched against Antonio Cromartie,the guy who was supposed to be playing well enough to justify trading Revis. If you go back and watch the game, Cromartie starts playing with a cushion, because the assumption is that the only thing Goodwin is useful is the deep route. He consistently worked Cromartie for chunks of 6-8 yards to keep the chains moving but what everyone remembers is the deep touchdown catch. At this point, Cromartie has started to bump him at the line. Goodwin takes the bump and STILL beats him deep when EJ throws the prettiest deep pass we've seen out of him yet. In four WR sets, I currently see Goodwin lining up on the outside with Williams. He might be a situational player, but as previous years have shown us, having extensive depth at WR is useful as the season wears on.

If it gets Brady saying "Clever girl" I don't care. Especially if he gets mauled immediately afterward.