WhitewalkerInPhilly

Someone on PFF actually charted Taylor's throws this year. By zone, his two highest QB ratings were over the middle between 10-19, and 0-9 respectively https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-bills-should-build-around-tyrod-taylor-not-show-him-the-door/ I like the premise: get Mike Williams or Juju at 10. Fix the defense. Keep up the run game.

I think the Alex Smith comparison is an apt one. Tyrod is never going to be the guy who will consistently put the entire team on his back. But there are stretches where he elevates the play of those around him and rarely makes the big mistake that kills you. When Smith was paired with a strong D and run game in San Fran they were serious contenders, and he has had serious runs with Andy Reid in KC.

To be fair, he tends to stick with the Jim Johnson 4-3, which is a 4-3 under. That said, I think it fits us well. Left to right on the D line: Hughes-Kyle-Dareus-Lawson

Lol. Well played. That is kind of the point. LAconjecture throws out everything he's heard no filter. JW filters and sometimes it's frustrating because of that prevents things like this.

...wow. Just wow. Next he will talk about how Gregg waa a defense guy too.

Thing is, Hue is still highly regarded. The Browns clearly planned to fail this year and have abundant cap space, and now that have the 1st and 12th overall picks. Say what you want about the FO, I like the McDermott pick.

Like they had no chance of getting a candidate like McDermott. I am still fine with Lynn staying.

Dang, I was hoping we could tender him. We need to upgrade, but I like him as a RZ target.

Nice. But I think he's a RFA, isn't he?

Zach

Lynn?

I have no idea where you get your numbers. Let's imagine for a hot second that we cut Taylor, and franchising Gilmore winds up being roughly equal. You're still at $19 M instead of my $10 that I suggested after rookies. That's 2-3 journeymen FA's as opposed to the 1-2 that I suggested? So yeah, you plug one more hole. But what the hell do we do at QB? Throw Cardale out there? Pick up another cast off and hope he is as good? Get a vet in the twilight of his career, and spend picks to get somone who will cost the same or more as Tyrod? You either write off next season, or you bet the farm on a QB. And now you are doing the "drafting for need" you just took me to task for. Or. Or. We get Tyrod to restructure or give Gilmore a phantom year or two. Like I said the first time.

If you think Graham is good enough at safety, I don't know what to tell you. The way I see it, we need 2 S and 2 WR, maybe a LB to fill in the gaps. Whaley has had a lot of luck picking people playing beyond their contract there. Decent journeymen at WR and S tend to go for $6 a year now. So get one with the cap space I mentioned and use the rest on RFA or UDFA for your depth. Then, come draft time take the best WR or safety at 10, whatever you don't get there in rounds 2 or 3 and pick up a later rounder of whatever you have journeymen for. It's tight, but that gets you there without any restructures, and I haven't even mentioned tough potential cuts like Kyle or Wood.

I don't get why your assuming we can't keep both. Even without a Tyrod restructure, we have $25 million now. Carp and Graham are easy cuts for another 6. Even with using the franchise tag, following the increase rate a CB is $14.2. After draft rookie deals, we are looking at $10.2 M in cap space. That's enough to sign one or two journeymen to plug holes and tag your RFA's and still have some extra even before you start renegotiating or thinking about hard cuts. You can easily reduce Gilmore's hit my giving him a bridge with phantom years like the Jets with Fitz and the Eagles with Bradford. Tyrod might want to renegotiate if he wants any security after this year. There are ways to make it work.

Up until this year Quinn was a blogger for BillsMafia/FamBase, and BuildingTheHerd. This year he got the national media nod, and for the most part I think he does great work. He's a poster on here too.

What, that can't be right. I heard from TBN that everything in the front office and organization was a tire fire and that we should let it burn!!!

C'mon, it's Florio. Never let facts get I'm the way of a good story.

In all fairness, in Denver he managed to rework the offense for Tebow. But I would prefer that he use the run heavy, read option planning with Tyrod and Shady.

Kinda. What I looked up had one DE playing the 9 (likely Hughes) whose job it is to speed rush and one 7 tech who lines up between THE TE and OT, and is in charge of run contain on heavier sets and pass rush on empty sets. That sounds exactly like Lawson.

I am seeing a lot of jumping to conclusions and freaking out because there were "reports" that McCoy MAY follow a guy that we haven't yet hired. Classic TBD You guys are crazy and I love it because I'm crazy too.

I couldn't read the entire thread this morning, but I am hearing a lot of "it's almost a done deal...maybe Mike McCoy." Anything about Lynn staying on as OC? I would really prefer if we kept him over McCoy. McCoy is a passing specialist, and maybe he gets a good year out of Tyrod, but Shady and our run blocking looks the best. IDK, to me, based on the way the contract is set up the best way to get rid of him is to pick up the option, give McCoy a year to inflate some stats, and then trade. Once the option is picked up, we hold the dead cap, and teams get a very friendly contract to him. It's high, but since we take a lot of the cap cost, we could get some very nice picks or players for him. Of course, there's the chance that: A) Lynn is staying and B) If McCoy is the guy, he would want a year to develop Cardale or whoever they draft and use Tyrod as a bridge.

He was. It was a bit before I came out here, but it was the year before Reid got fired. The Eagles then went from 10-6 to 4-12 the next year and Reid was fired. From what I hear about how it went down Reid said McDermott would be back and then fired him 5 days later. To me it sounds like a classic "fall on your sword for the HC" situations.

I hear nothing but good things about him in Philly which is saying something. Also, while a DC shouldn't be too dependant on scheme I did some research. The Jim Johnson 4-3 under scheme plays very well with what we have. Dareus goes back to one gapping more like he did with Pettine. Lawson is almost a perfect fit for a Suggs mold 7 tech DE, and Hughes would return to 9 tech DE. The the backing group Preston had his best year as a 4-3 MLB, and Ragland could be a solid Sam. If you get Zach back, that's a hell of a solid front 7 again. The coverage is zone, which would help out Darby. A Manny like FA pickup or two and a safety high in the draft I think the D would be back on track pretty quick.

That's my guess. Either there is someone they like in the playoffs, and they are waiting to see if they can get a bite at the apple OR They really like one of the two DC's (Kris Richard or McDermott) but they also like Lynn. Lynn's problem is that, even if Bradley were to come here, I don't think he is a good fit for our defense. If no one wants Lynn as HC, he is under contract still for us. Out of the 6 teams that had HC vacancies, Jax has already filled theirs and Denver is going to get the cream of the crop so they could wait it out and see the dominoes fall.

Thanks John. "Break" in that they aren't doing anything or deliver it or they have no other schedule coaching visits?