QB Bills

Other than injuries, this is my biggest concern also. They don't seem to have any cocky, nasty, SOB kind of players who play with a bit of a dirty streak. Think Wilfork, JPP, Suggs, etc. Too many nice guys. Football is a game of emotion. It overcomes talent deficiencies at times, especially in big games. I'm hoping Dareus can partially fill that role, but they need some sandpaper. It's been missing from this team for a long time.

Like many here I would presume, I watch and analyze every Buffalo Bills snap to some varying degree of detail. I could tell you that Jabari Greer was an awesome talent, as was Kyle Williams at least a year before they got any accolades. Again, not trying to sound self-serving, because I know there are many fans on this board who saw the same. I know there are fans out there that watch other games in similar fashion. So to you, I ask: How good is Mario Williams really? How was his supporting cast throughout his career in Houston? By that, I mean the coaching/scheme, as well as the other guys on defense. Was he a one-man wrecking crew or did he have a lot of support? Specifically before the 2010 season where Wade came in and changed their D to a 3-4. I was on a Texans message board right after the Bills signed him to find the answer to this question and a lot of them were saying that he was talented but lacked the fire and never really played up to his potential. Couldn't tell if that was just sour grapes or not. Still, not playing to his potential (which is not a good sign), but still putting up those numbers is quite impressive.

Can't remember being more excited for a recent game than I was for the opener against New England on Monday night a couple of years ago (McFumbles). We haven't fared too well in primetime, but there's just a really cool vibe about playing on Monday or even Sunday night. I really hope the NFL gives us at least one of those.

Buddy needs to act quick and go grab Brees in the aftermath of this. Put down the Maalox and get to it Mr. Nix!!

Its the offseason and everyone is giddy about the Mario signing, but a dose of reality is in order. Florence sucks. Don't make any excuses for him because the other corners played behind the same front 7. McGee was solid when healthy, as he usually is. Aaron Williams did ok for a rookie. And I was really impressed with Justin Rogers when he got some playing time. Florence and McKelvin, on the other hand, are way below average and can't be counted on to get the job done. Will they play better with an improved pass rush? Of course, but so will everyone else. Having said that, if either of them have a significant role in this defense next year, it won't be a good thing. It's pathetic that with all the resources spent on the secondary during the Jauron years that it's not an area of strength with this group. Regular fans like me were screaming for them to re-sign Jabari Greer, who makes as much as Florence if I remember correctly (5m). But they let him go and he's now one of the best cover guys in the league.

Let's be real. It's the NFL in 2012. Every team has holes. Even the ones who make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl. The Pats had the second worst pass defense in NFL history, and they were close to winning it all. And the worst (GB) almost went undefeated. To say that this signing doesn't make us a complete team is correct. But no team is. However, to say that this signing can't put us over the hump is what I don't agree with. Dareus was on the same island last year as Kyle has been on for the few years prior to that. I was excited to see what they could do together but that obviously didn't pan out with Kyle's injury. Now they are healthy, and you add Mario F'n Williams??? That is a defensive coordinator's wet dream. Just imagine what Tiger Woods' retarded half brother must feel like right now (George Edwards, that is). Assuming there aren't crippling injuries again (and I know that's a big assumption), I'd be very disappointed if this team didn't make the playoffs and even make some noise once it got there. We have a good coach on both sides of the ball now. Other than injuries, the only thing that can derail this team is Fitzpatrick. Hopefully he comes to play this year.

a more accurate description would be: three men and a baby

Just sign already! Haven't even had breakfast yet!

the fans at the game should start a may-ree-ooo chant couldn't hurt

I'd like to see us sign Lee Evans. With some improved pass protection, I still think he's a good weapon.

saying sanchez is 5-1 against the bills is like saying fireman ed is 5-1 against any one of us...he's had about as much impact on those games as the dirty one

what are your thoughts on big-ups? and everyone knows that this is the most annoying thing in the world:

actually no, it's far from meaningless...he just got a crapload of money and a lot of it guaranteed http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7668318/new-york-jets-extend-mark-sanchez-deal-end-pursuit-peyton-manning i really don't get how professional football execs can be so stupid...the guy is terrible, especially considering the talent he is surrounded with on that offense

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/mike-tannenbaum-mark-sanchez-ny-jets-quarterback-2012-qb-receive-five-year-deal-article-1.1036636?localLinksEnabled=false great news!!! i'm of the opinion that this guy is one of the worst starting qbs in the league, if not the worst

No no...I was referring to Rogers, not Florence in the Jabari comparison. I was Greer's biggest fan and I see a little bit of his skill set in Rogers and believe he will turn out to be a better player than Aaron Williams.

I agree with those who say he's the best CB on the team. Wish they had kept Jabari Greer and McGee stayed healthy. CB would have been a strength on this team, instead of the cringe-inducing mess it's been the last few years.

They should cut him asap. Doesn't matter if he was getting paid minimum wage. He sucks and talks too much. More importantly, he is taking up playing time for the guy who I believe will emerge as the Bills' best corner (after McGee goes down in week 2) next year: Justin f'n Rogers!! He reminds me of how Jabari Greer looked when he was here. I hope Wannstedt sees what George Edwards couldn't.

guess i`m in the minority, but i`d be pretty pissed seeing that if i was a patriots fan ya, the pc answer is its only football and life goes on, but you`d like to think that a guy who just lost in the super bowl just a few hours before wouldn`t be acting like he just won it...its not a romanticized notion, there are still players out there that care enough to not want to go party after a loss like that a bit of a stretch, i know, but imagine that was stevie after we had just lost the super bowl...this board would implode

yup...that ankle sure looks terrible...i mean, the way he's moving there on stage, it looks like someone just shot him

haha...i knew that would go over your head...thanks for the laugh, champ

good ol' wolf:

on the infinitely miniscule chance that anyone from the bills FO reads this msg (on the 3rd page of a random thread), i say to you this: you people have been stupid for long enough, maybe try being competent on for size, you just might like it...start by re-signing (or, failing that, franchising) your best receiver...thanks

excellent post! possibly the best one i've ever read on this board it leads to one question though...how did you find out where leodis mckelvin lived?

And to think, if Stevie had caught that OT pass against the Steelers, MD would be wreaking havoc for someone else. It would have been next to impossible to screw that pick up and I'm glad they didn't.

as crazy as it sounds, i'm with you here there's a possibility that this team won't be in buffalo for too much longer and it would be great if they just went all-in for the next couple of years again, its probably just a pipe dream, as i doubt he'd want to come here and may not be the same player anyway, but if those two points didn't apply, i think the bills would be stupid not to give up the farm to get him i've always thought he was the best qb in the game and could have done a lot more with a better team and better coaching around him, but my opinion of his talent shot up exponentially this year with how pathetic the colts were without him...i don't think its a stretch to say he's the most talented qb to play the game in the last 30 years it would still be a longshot to win the super bowl, as so many other things have to fall into place, but i think we'd be a contender...he's the one player you can say makes that much of a difference