Glass To The Arson Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...ce-for-blitzes/ The best thing Belichick can do for Brady is keep his body and its contents assembled as intended. It will be a challenge, but we've got a feeling that Belichick and Brady welcome it. The process begins Monday night, against the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Our only hope is Chris Ellis. I suspect teams will begin to double Maybin when he's in on crucial passing downs and take him out of the game. Maybin won't be a factor unless someone else can win a one on one battle, and we know Kelsay, Denney and Schobel certainly aren't going to get any kind of a pass rush on the other side. Why we cut Bryan is beyond me. Our only hope is that Ellis can be that 2nd pass rusher in crucial moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereIsNoDog Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Blitz him on every down. No one is expecting the Bills to beat the Patriots anyway. But if they can get to Brady and knock him around, maybe land an elbow "to brace one's fall" to his knee, it's a better strategy that sitting back and taking what's shoved down their throats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Blitz him on every down. No one is expecting the Bills to beat the Patriots, but if they can get to Brady and knock him around, it's a better strategy that sitting back and taking what's shoved down their throats. NE* runs most plays out of a shotgun. Send the DTs straight ahead at the snap - you push the pocket back, and can catch a rb. I don't watch a lot of NE* games, but I don't recall them pulling their guards much - correct me if I'm wrong. I'd send the LDE in - they don't seem to run to the right much, and charge the MLB with watching that middle pass Brady loves so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Yeah, because the Pats* have never burned a blitzing Buffalo defense with screen passes before. Seriously, do any of you even watch football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Our only hope is Chris Ellis. I suspect teams will begin to double Maybin when he's in on crucial passing downs and take him out of the game. Maybin won't be a factor unless someone else can win a one on one battle, and we know Kelsay, Denney and Schobel certainly aren't going to get any kind of a pass rush on the other side. Why we cut Bryan is beyond me. Our only hope is that Ellis can be that 2nd pass rusher in crucial moments. I hope NE thinks as silly as you do. Because it's not like Schobel has the most sacks against Brady or anything? I pray that AS gets one on one and shuts up a lot of his undeserved critics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Yeah, because the Pats* have never burned a blitzing Buffalo defense with screen passes before. Seriously, do any of you even watch football? So - should the Bills' coaches chew their fingernails and never call a blitz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I hope NE thinks as silly as you do. Because it's not like Schobel has the most sacks against Brady or anything? I pray that AS gets one on one and shuts up a lot of his undeserved critics. Yeah, Schobel has really been up to par rushing the passer the last 3 years. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Yeah, because the Pats* have never burned a blitzing Buffalo defense with screen passes before. Seriously, do any of you even watch football? I'm trying my best to be optmistic but you're so right, unless we have a front four that can provide pressure on its own, beating Brady is hard to picture. Belechick and Brady against the DJ blitz ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Yeah, because the Pats* have never burned a blitzing Buffalo defense with screen passes before. Seriously, do any of you even watch football? And what would you want to do, drop 7 back in coverage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Yeah, because the Pats* have never burned a blitzing Buffalo defense with screen passes before. Seriously, do any of you even watch football? I have visions/nighmares of Welker burning us on short slants if this happens. LB's left in the dust and cbs running him down 25yds downfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Our only hope is Chris Ellis. I suspect teams will begin to double Maybin when he's in on crucial passing downs and take him out of the game. Maybin won't be a factor unless someone else can win a one on one battle, and we know Kelsay, Denney and Schobel certainly aren't going to get any kind of a pass rush on the other side. Why we cut Bryan is beyond me. Our only hope is that Ellis can be that 2nd pass rusher in crucial moments. Why do you assume Schobel is a non-factor? If he is healthy he is an effective pass rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Yeah, Schobel has really been up to par rushing the passer the last 3 years. My bad. So let me get this straight, if defenses are doubling and muting Maybin instead of Schobel, it's Chris Ellis that will benefit most? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I have visions/nighmares of Welker burning us on short slants if this happens. LB's left in the dust and cbs running him down 25yds downfield See my previous post re MLB responsibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 So let me get this straight, if defenses are doubling and muting Maybin instead of Schobel, it's Chris Ellis that will benefit most? No, I'm saying if they double Maybin we are screwed because we don't have a pass rusher on the other side that can get to the QB consistently (Kelsay, Denney, Schobel). I said our only hope is for Chris Ellis to perform and hope he can turn into that player we need. Maybin won't help the pass rush much if teams decide to double him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Why do you assume Schobel is a non-factor? If he is healthy he is an effective pass rusher. Are you talking about now or 3 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKillerRobots Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I'm hoping that for the first third and 4 to 8 play the Pats have to run, we line up with Ellis as one DE, Schobel the other, and Maybin as OLB in base D. Hopefully that'll be a tough package to play against if you are going to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass To The Arson Posted September 8, 2009 Author Share Posted September 8, 2009 Yeah, because the Pats* have never burned a blitzing Buffalo defense with screen passes before. Seriously, do any of you even watch football? 1. There was a link which Florio wrote 2. Yes, we should blitz. I'm pretty sure we are taught how to stop screen passes Do you think before you type? I don't think so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I'm pretty sure we are taught how to stop screen passes That must be why it happens with such regularity. Really, you people are unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass To The Arson Posted September 8, 2009 Author Share Posted September 8, 2009 That must be why it happens with such regularity. Really, you people are unreal. You are unreal. Teams blitz and understand screen passes are going to happen. The Bills may not be able to stop it all the time, but that doesn't mean the they shouldn't blitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJ91 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...ce-for-blitzes/ The best thing Belichick can do for Brady is keep his body and its contents assembled as intended. It will be a challenge, but we've got a feeling that Belichick and Brady welcome it. The process begins Monday night, against the Bills. Blitz? Perry Fewell doesn't blitz! Oh wait, sometimes he will send someone on a funky "zone blitz". I love those. We get the monumental pleasure of watching a Patriot running back take the short pass from Brady, who barely gets bothered by the safety or LB blitzing up the middle right into a pile of humanity, while Schoebel or Kelsay are left looking beyond stupid as they sprint behind the back to make the tackle 24 yards downfield. Yeah, those blitzes are really effective. The best the Bills can hope for is not to get called for roughing the QB, tacking another 15 yards onto the 24 yard gain, as the safety or LB finally break through the humanity, totally out of control, and possibly attempt to slam Brady to the ground out of sheer frustration! Dude, why on earth do the think the Bills defense cannot stop a single 3rd down play - like, ever! Fewell hates blitzing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFishfinder Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...ce-for-blitzes/ The best thing Belichick can do for Brady is keep his body and its contents assembled as intended. It will be a challenge, but we've got a feeling that Belichick and Brady welcome it. The process begins Monday night, against the Bills. Let's see if we've got a blitz. RELEASE THE HOUNDS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pneumonic Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 NE* runs most plays out of a shotgun. Send the DTs straight ahead at the snap - you push the pocket back, and can catch a rb. I don't watch a lot of NE* games, but I don't recall them pulling their guards much - correct me if I'm wrong. The Pats have one of the most active and nimble OL in the game. They are forever pulling their interior 3 - Neal, Mankins and Koppen - which is probably why they are perhaps the best screen and misdirection team in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleed Bills Blue Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Let's see if we've got a blitz. RELEASE THE HOUNDS!!! Yeah, and I'd love to see it, too. But you've got to think-Brady's first game back, with a national audience...well, let's just say I expect to see a lot of holding against us that might somehow get overlooked by the refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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