PDaDdy Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Ellison isn't quite as bad as some people say but I definitely want to see an upgrade at the position. I was hoping for opening day but we know the coaching staff has veteran man love. I'm realistically hoping that they give him the start after the bye week. We probably have to many young guys on defense to screw with them but I would like us to show a few 3 - 4 looks. If not for anything else it's good for the offense to see some basic 3 - 4 looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Should have been named the starter the day after the Packer game. This is a guy who HITS. We don't have enough of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Flowers Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Ellison isn't quite as bad as some people say but I definitely want to see an upgrade at the position. I was hoping for opening day but we know the coaching staff has veteran man love. I'm realistically hoping that they give him the start after the bye week. We probably have to many young guys on defense to screw with them but I would like us to show a few 3 - 4 looks. If not for anything else it's good for the offense to see some basic 3 - 4 looks. Any day after yesterday is not soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 Any day after yesterday is not soon enough. Lol. I kind of agree. The kid looks great imho. Where I will say that it looks like his game is lacking is understanding the complete defense. I only recall him missing one assignment on defense on a long pass to a Green Bay TE. The "listed" weights don't seem to support it but this guy already looks bigger than Ellison. I heard that supposedly Harris didn't lift weights for size in college because he was already a huge safety. With a little work from a professional weight and conditioning staff his guy could easily play in the 240's if not low 250's like POZ. He's a rook so he will naturally gain weight anyway. He also seems to play faster and more aggressively than Ellison does and he seems to always somehow be around the ball often making a play. I was almost pissed off when Ellison made that great 4 and 1 play against Green Bay because that will be fuel for the coaches to delay the emergence of Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 If Harris seems to have a good understanding of the defense and has strong performances in the next 2 games I don't see how they could justify him not starting. He's active in coverage, gets after the ball carrier, and throws all his weight behind hits. Ellison gets worked over by blockers, isn't that great in coverage, and isn't a very consistent tackler. I don't see how he should keep the rook off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I hope this does not turn into one of those Greer situations........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 If Harris seems to have a good understanding of the defense and has strong performances in the next 2 games I don't see how they could justify him not starting. He's active in coverage, gets after the ball carrier, and throws all his weight behind hits. Ellison gets worked over by blockers, isn't that great in coverage, and isn't a very consistent tackler. I don't see how he should keep the rook off the field. Man I would love for you to be right. I just get the feeling though that if Harris doesn't get any first team defensive reps this week or next week it won't happen until later in the season at best. To me the week after the bye week is the week to do it because you have 2 weeks to coach the guy up and prep for the upcoming opponent. Excelling in practice is one thing, excelling in preseason with the second team defense is another but when the games count for real is a completely different thing. I hope he continues to impress and look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellDressed Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I hope this does not turn into one of those Greer situations........ Please elaborate JFH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF88Bills Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Week 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 The only reason why Greer got the opportunity to start is because the loser free agent they brought in got hurt......and until he got hurt he was clearly being outplayed by Greer. It was then and only then Greer got the opportunity.....and was arguably our best DB last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Please elaborate JFH A lot of us clueless fans thought Greer looked great (and Freddie Jackson too), but they were keeping vets ahead of him until the injury John from Hemet pointed out. It seems our staff is afraid of talent if they're young and undrafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 This is going to turn into an A-Train/F Jackson situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsrcursed Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 The question should read, "Why hasn't the staff announced Harris as the starter yet?" Assuming Ellison starts, it's just another example of how poorly this team is coached, and while I want to blame the coordinators, they aren't the boss of themselves. It's getting old... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeJuiceSimpson Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 A lot of us clueless fans thought Greer looked great (and Freddie Jackson too), but they were keeping vets ahead of him until the injury John from Hemet pointed out. It seems our staff is afraid of talent if they're young and undrafted. Ha I remember wanting to rip my hair out when A-train got that start on Monday night against the Cowboys. And the Greer thing was rediculous. Fans at Saint John Fisher new Greer was special from the start but somehow the whole Bills coaching staff missed it. I'm sure it will be no different with Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Ha I remember wanting to rip my hair out when A-train got that start on Monday night against the Cowboys. And the Greer thing was rediculous. Fans at Saint John Fisher new Greer was special from the start but somehow the whole Bills coaching staff missed it. I'm sure it will be no different with Harris. And I think the front office missed it by not re-signing him this off season....He was a play maker on the defense that did not have a pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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