VOR Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I dont understand why these kids dont try to sign the moment they get drafted. Maybin is 21 years old, and will be getting millions of dollars with his signing bonus. If I were him I would want my millions in April... I couldn't wait till July or August. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush... or something like that. Just ask for a little more than what McKelvin got last year and be done with it. Then invest your money for a couple extra months and you may be even when its all said and done. Just simple time value of money. One-word answer: agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I don't think they can. They have clauses that protect them during mini-camp/OTA's but I think it does not apply to trainng camp. I believe they have insurance policies for the OTA's and mini camps. I'm not sure why they don't cover TC's. Yeah, that's why I was thinking non-contact type participation. I guess they could still get hurt standing on the sideline or something. And certainly, there's only so much meeting room/book learning they could do. I was just wonder aloud if anyone's ever thought of it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 On his twitter account he has been saying the right things and seems genuinely anxious to get this out of the way and get on the field. www.twitter.com/AaronMaybin58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Yeah, reading everything over, it sounds like this is going to be a brief annoyance and not a crisis. Nobody's doing anything unusual, it's just the usual logjams in the system are conflicting with our early camp start. As long as Maybin and Wood are in the first 20 or so first rounders to sign, I'll be happy. Now, with at least one 2nd rounder having signed, I think it's time to do the job with Levitre and Byrd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I'm thinking that there will be a larger number of 1st, 2nd round no-signs. Most owners already have sell-outs for their tix. They know with the way things are, there will be no-shows - less parking and concession cash. If I owned a team, and a high round pick and his hired gun played hardball - see ya. Enjoy your draft re-entry next year. Not inking Your Majesty to an upfront guaranteed $$$ deal sure looks good on my balance sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 a rookie salary cap would settle this issue at least for the rookie year. it would have the potential to complicate things later on depending on length of rookie contracts. as it stands, this is the way the system works and i don't begrudge rookies for not reporting until they get a fair deal. i do know that some teams in the past have truly attempted to low-ball first-round draft picks, which has complicated talks. and they low-balled them even though the players drafted immediately before and after them had signed. all i'm saying is though some here blame the player, there's also a team involved and it takes two to tango. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 jw Hi! john.....missed ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 One-word answer: agents. Yes, but the agent is hired by the player, not the other way around. The player can dictate how the agent acts. If I were a drafted player like Maybin, I would have made sure my agent got me a contract ASAP, or I would make him my former agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Hi! john.....missed ya! thanks. ... by the way my cable's been acting up. the damn "start over" function and some of the indemand stuff's been acting up. anything you can do about that? been back for a few days, actually had a discussion about all things Irish on the off the wall board and ready to head to camp tomorrow, which annually marks the end of my summer the moment i step foot on campus. wondering what the buzz will be about, eh? jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Yes, but the agent is hired by the player, not the other way around. The player can dictate how the agent acts. If I were a drafted player like Maybin, I would have made sure my agent got me a contract ASAP, or I would make him my former agent. That is easy to say, but you are talking about young guys...................some of which are not all that intelligent, most will follow the advice of the agent they hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 That is easy to say, but you are talking about young guys...................some of which are not all that intelligent, most will follow the advice of the agent they hired. while there are some agents who practice questionable tactics, many more are in fact looking out for the players' interest while also making a living for themselves. there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. and though i find many of the athletes i cover to be, in fact, intelligent -- and my encounters with Maybin indicate to me that he's very bright -- wouldn't it behoove them to get their market value. in fact, your argument is a little contradictory or confused at the least. if the athlete is not intelligent, then he certainly should follow the agent's advice. and if the athlete is intelligent, he then knows enough to hire a reputable agent and then follow that person's advice. i don't understand how the player is the bad guy in this. the system needs fixing and, once again, teams have a role in this as well. you'd hire a lawyer and real estate agent to buy a house, right? same deal. if you didn't, well, good luck with that, eh? jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Not considered a holdout until camp starts. a player that is not under contract can't be holding out there is nothing to hold out from He is simply an unsigned player- with the inability to market his services anywhere else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I don't really consider what these guys are doing as egregious as a guy who's already under contract holding out. They really can't step on the field until they're under contract - otherwise they're totally exposed if they get hurt on day one. It's their first contract, and they'll report is soon as the 'slotting' process runs it's natural course. Probably w/in a few days after camp opens. Now if they have a great rookie season and decide to hold out next season, well f&ck 'em, I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I'm thinking that there will be a larger number of 1st, 2nd round no-signs. Most owners already have sell-outs for their tix. They know with the way things are, there will be no-shows - less parking and concession cash. If I owned a team, and a high round pick and his hired gun played hardball - see ya. Enjoy your draft re-entry next year. Not inking Your Majesty to an upfront guaranteed $$$ deal sure looks good on my balance sheet. that's a workable policy for teams that plan for the future however, a team like the Bills screwed themselves by totally relying on most of their high picks to start from day 1. of course, the Bills would probably play hardball because saving bucks is much more important than putting a quality product on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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