/dev/null Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Not that it matters, the Iranian President isn't the one really running Iran anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Not that it matters, the Iranian President isn't the one really running Iran anyway It might matter. The voters there are pretty ticked. The guys really in charge have to be a bit concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Riots in the streets. And I'm not talking about Lakers fans. http://twitter.com/search?q=#iranelection http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8099952.stm http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/bahramks/Rio...882071862065202 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Which of course by the end of the week will result in more people in jail,and the status quo maintained. I am not defending the Shah, but compare their revolution results with ours and it gives you a better appreciation of just how brilliant the founding Fathers of this country were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britbillsfan Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 The Iranian system has a whole load of candidates, and then relies on a second round to decide from the top two candidates left to choose from. The last election the guy had under 20% of the votes in the first round, seeing how he pissed off so many people in the intervening years I can not possibly see how that suddenly rose to over 65% to avoid the second round entirely. And somehow he managed to poll stupid numbers in his main opponents home city, where the level of support for Mousavi has been consistantly very high. It's bollocks, and a continuation of the repulsive dictatorship which is the current theocratic government there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 As Richard Engel said, it seems a little hard to believe that they counted 40 million paper ballots with no computers in a few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 It might matter. The voters there are pretty ticked. The guys really in charge have to be a bit concerned. The president of Iran is like our VP (with even less power). he basically is a talking head for the supreme leader who makes all the rules and dictates the laws of the country. The president is like Joe Biden. he can go on TV, make gaffes, say whatever he wants and no one really cares. The supreme leader is the real power, who just likes to keep a low profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I for one am pleased to see Obamania sweeping the globe. Like Obama, Ahmadinejad successfully harnessed the demand for change with clever campaign slogans like “Ma mitavanim” (We can!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 As Richard Engel said, it seems a little hard to believe that they counted 40 million paper ballots with no computers in a few hours. I thought that myself the other day. http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/06/14/...html#cnnSTCText Can't guarantee to protect the guy he ran against... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted June 15, 2009 Author Share Posted June 15, 2009 I for one am pleased to see Obamania sweeping the globe. Like Obama, Ahmadinejad successfully harnessed the demand for change with clever campaign slogans like “Ma mitavanim” (We can!). Obama and Ahmadinejad owe a great deal of thanks to Bob the Builder Yes we can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 It makes it simpler to get a deal done with GE and the Ayatollah to build their first nuclear generator plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Which of course by the end of the week will result in more people in jail,and the status quo maintained. I am not defending the Shah, but compare their revolution results with ours and it gives you a better appreciation of just how brilliant the founding Fathers of this country were. I hate to agree, but ... Twenty years ago, I was a naive 20-year-old spellbound by the reports coming out of Tienanmen Square. With that many people protesting, something good HAD to come out of it, no? And then the tanks rolled in, the "People's Army" made a couple thousand of their own countrymen disappear, and everyone else faded back into the shadows. I hope this has a different outcome, but the wrong side still has the weaponry. Another link: http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/06/15/tehran_two/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFishfinder Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Did anyone actually think for a nano second that the power brokers in Iran were going to let a quote "reformist" unquote, become president? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFishfinder Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I hate to agree, but ...Twenty years ago, I was a naive 20-year-old spellbound by the reports coming out of Tienanmen Square. With that many people protesting, something good HAD to come out of it, no? And then the tanks rolled in, the "People's Army" made a couple thousand of their own countrymen disappear, and everyone else faded back into the shadows. I hope this has a different outcome, but the wrong side still has the weaponry. Another link: http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/06/15/tehran_two/ Interesting article from the link. I think the only plausible way Iran will change is when its 20-something and younger citizens change it from within. They are already being exposed to many of the the things available in the world today. Hopefully, the desire to acquire and have access to those things (technology, products, services, freedoms, etc.) will work from the inside out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 You mean technology like this? Lots of people: http://twitpic.com/7gtbu http://i.friendfeed.com/f447b5d79cd90090d4...a6cc10a0f11ebb3 The government is trying to shut down the news feed, of course -- BBC's satellite has been jammed off and on since last night. But the protesters are responding in kind, hacking gov't Web sites. And people all over the world are using Twitter to pass along "safe" proxies and ways to get around the filters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britbillsfan Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Did anyone actually think for a nano second that the power brokers in Iran were going to let a quote "reformist" unquote, become president? It has happened before. Khatami was a reformist. Could not get anything done, though, since the parliament was permanently filled with hardliners (and Khatami's supporters/fellow reformers were blocked from running for office at those parliamentary elections). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 You mean technology like this? Lots of people: http://twitpic.com/7gtbu http://i.friendfeed.com/f447b5d79cd90090d4...a6cc10a0f11ebb3 The government is trying to shut down the news feed, of course -- BBC's satellite has been jammed off and on since last night. But the protesters are responding in kind, hacking gov't Web sites. And people all over the world are using Twitter to pass along "safe" proxies and ways to get around the filters. Now if they could only twitter around a AK-47. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 The people on the streets of Tehran and elsewhere are very brave. I have been following the "election" and its aftermath pretty closely. It is amazing to watch some of the video that has been getting out. The election obviously was rigged and was rigged in such an obvious and brazen manner. These next few days are going to be very interesting to watch. I forgot the exact percentage, but Iran has a very young population - I believe most were born after the Iranian revolution. This could be the next Iranian revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Pretty wild picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Pretty wild picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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