SKOOBY Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 It seems to me that the Bills have made an effort to upgrade almost every position on the team. They added new backups to almost every position & cut a lot of dead weight. All I can say is I am very impressed & can only see our depth bringing us closer to our true goal, .500. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Chris Kelsay remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 they have done a good job so far to weed out the dead weight but more work remains to finish the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Chris Kelsay remains. Thats because he is only dead weight to the peeps who look for sack totals in the newspaper...he is actually not that bad, not great, but he has value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Thats because he is only dead weight to the peeps who look for sack totals in the newspaper...he is actually not that bad, not great, but he has value. I dont dislike Kelsay because he cant get to the QB. I dislike Kelsay because he over-pursues any play headed in his direction, gets bowled over by RBs, manhandled by Offensive Tackles AND cant get to the QB. All while being paid 4 million dollars a year to do so. Other than that, he's peachy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Kachy Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 With competition he may improve his game. I used to be a Kelsay fan, but the only thing I can think right now is ....Maybin, Schobel, Stroud, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offde-fence Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 It looks like their success and/or failure will come down to their O-line, and Defensive front seven. And QB. When you compare the Bills to some of the teams that look to dominate (Giants, San Diego, Pittsburg) those are the areas we look vulnerable in. In other areas, our team looks to have some of the best talent gathered in the NFL - Special Teams, WR, RB, Secondary. I believe we'll have a swarming, play making, aggressive defense this year, but It'd be nice to see the D-line, and the LB corps become dominant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 I dont dislike Kelsay because he cant get to the QB. I dislike Kelsay because he over-pursues any play headed in his direction, gets bowled over by RBs, manhandled by Offensive Tackles AND cant get to the QB. All while being paid 4 million dollars a year to do so. Other than that, he's peachy. i thought you were talking about Schobel...until you mentioned the 4 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 It looks like their success and/or failure will come down to their O-line, and Defensive front seven. And QB. When you compare the Bills to some of the teams that look to dominate (Giants, San Diego, Pittsburg) those are the areas we look vulnerable in. In other areas, our team looks to have some of the best talent gathered in the NFL - Special Teams, WR, RB, Secondary. I believe we'll have a swarming, play making, aggressive defense this year, but It'd be nice to see the D-line, and the LB corps become dominant. 1-2 years away if we make all the right moves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 I dont dislike Kelsay because he cant get to the QB. I dislike Kelsay because he over-pursues any play headed in his direction, gets bowled over by RBs, manhandled by Offensive Tackles AND cant get to the QB. All while being paid 4 million dollars a year to do so. Other than that, he's peachy. Get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Chris Kelsay remains. As does the Chroisen® one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishP Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Chris Kelsay remains. Chris Kelsay isn't useless he would be an awesome backup, if he'd take a pay cut. if not then yeah he is pretty useless. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 As does the Chroisen® one what's that supposed to mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 what's that supposed to mean? RJ > JP > Chroise® Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Numark Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Thats because he is only dead weight to the peeps who look for sack totals in the newspaper...he is actually not that bad, not great, but he has value. great post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Thats because he is only dead weight to the peeps who look for sack totals in the newspaper...he is actually not that bad, not great, but he has value. its not the sack #s. look at early in the way overrated schobels career. In that sense you are right. You are dead wrong in implying that Kelsays game is good despite not getting cheapo sacks. Well---the problem is not the sack numbers but the fact that he is out in the back 40 every pass play or draw play once the O lineman is finshed manhandling him. I would say that he is a competent backup run stopper on obvious running plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Thats because he is only dead weight to the peeps who look for sack totals in the newspaper...he is actually not that bad, not great, but he has value. He has very little value considering his cost. 1-2 years away if we make all the right moves This is true. The best we can hope for is if the offensive line gels by week 6-7. Get used to it. We already are. Chris Kelsay isn't useless he would be an awesome backup, if he'd take a pay cut. if not then yeah he is pretty useless. lol Yes, he's virtually worthless. its not the sack #s. look at early in the way overrated schobels career. In that sense you are right. You are dead wrong in implying that Kelsays game is good despite not getting cheapo sacks. Well---the problem is not the sack numbers but the fact that he is out in the back 40 every pass play or draw play once the O lineman is finshed manhandling him.I would say that he is a competent backup run stopper on obvious running plays. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Thats because he is only dead weight to the peeps who look for sack totals in the newspaper...he is actually not that bad, not great, but he has value. Everything is relative Alpha. When a player get's evaluated, you have to take both his play and his pay into consideration. These are the two most important things you look at. Considering he is getting payed close to $5 Million a year, he is a terrible value. Having said that, now that we've all ready have him signed and have payed him the majority of what he going to get payed, I'd rather have him as opposed to nothing. If we could get a 6th rounder in next years draft, I'd do it in a heartbeat, but just cutting him, at this point, wouldn't make too much sense to me. If I were part of the FO, I'd ask to restructure his contract and have him take a pay cut. Doesn't hurt to see if he'd accept it, it has been known to happen on more than a few occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted May 16, 2009 Author Share Posted May 16, 2009 Everything is relative Alpha. When a player get's evaluated, you have to take both his play and his pay into consideration. These are the two most important things you look at. Considering he is getting payed close to $5 Million a year, he is a terrible value. Having said that, now that we've all ready have him signed and have payed him the majority of what he going to get payed, I'd rather have him as opposed to nothing. If we could get a 6th rounder in next years draft, I'd do it in a heartbeat, but just cutting him, at this point, wouldn't make too much sense to me. If I were part of the FO, I'd ask to restructure his contract and have him take a pay cut. Doesn't hurt to see if he'd accept it, it has been known to happen on more than a few occasions. Every year there is a mix of good / bad values & since we've been 7-9 for 3 years in a row, they're all bad values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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