Never NEVER Give-up Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 While all the selections are great ballplayers, it is strange they allowed 4 guards on the OL and ignored anyone who played tackle. (????) It is also strange they allowed only one RB - I know they said they were going with a 3 WR offense, but sometimes - at least half the time we run a 2-back offense - so their s/b 2 RBs on the team. Or a fullback - Gilchrist gets my vote. I also question the LBs - 3 of the 4 are from the SB era - Buscuit - Talley - Conlon. Really? No Spielman, Jacobs, or anyone else I cannot recall here? All these oddities, but they select a ST player - Tasker? I don't know who set the guidelines for this team, but I would put my money on the 25th Anniversay team vs the 50th Anniversay Team any day. Bruce (25th Anniv Team) would blow past any of the guards playing tackle and Kelly (50th Anniv Team) wouldn't make it through the 1st Qtr!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 What's an "anniversay"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 They went with 1 RB because they didn't want to deal with OJ being selected to the team. IMO, that cheapens the whole ordeal. OJ, the football player, was probably the greatest Bill ever. He was a guy that redefined what an NFL Running Back should be. Now, OJ the felon is another matter entirely. For what it's worth I think these sort of things should just look at playing careers and not off-the-field behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 No Robert James what a joke, don't look at INT's He was all about bump and run and physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Obviously the voting was slanted to the 90s teams - maybe younger voters who don't know anyone from the 60s thru the 80s. Major surprises to me, all from the Super Bowl teams: Conlan Odomes Lofton Henry Jones Ruben Brown's inclusion also surprised me. For the record, I voted for Jim Haslett, Bob James, Golden Wheels Dubenion, Tony Greene, and Reggie McKenzie in the place of those 5. I too had 4 guards and no tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haven Moses Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 No Robert James what a joke, don't look at INT's He was all about bump and run and physical. I agree 100%. The rules were changed because he was that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 It a friggin shame that #20 isn't in. The board is mainly from the Kelly era. Dubie was better than Lofton as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Obviously the voting was slanted to the 90s teams - maybe younger voters who don't know anyone from the 60s thru the 80s. Major surprises to me, all from the Super Bowl teams: Conlan Odomes Lofton Henry Jones Ruben Brown's inclusion also surprised me. For the record, I voted for Jim Haslett, Bob James, Golden Wheels Dubenion, Tony Greene, and Reggie McKenzie in the place of those 5. I too had 4 guards and no tackles. Totally agree with your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I was bored weeks ago.....still bored really .........but came up with 3 teams Bills Golden Anniversary Team First Team Quarterback – Jim Kelly Running Back – Thurman Thomas Wide Receivers – Andre Reed, Eric Moulds, Jerry Butler Tight End – Pete Metzelaars Offensive Line – Will Wolford, Joe DeLamielleure, Kent Hull, Billy Shaw, House Ballard Defensive Line – Bruce Smith, Tom Sestak, Phil Hansen Linebackers – Mike Stratton, Darryl Talley, Shane Conlan, Cornelius Bennett Safeties – Tony Greene, George Saimes Cornerbacks – Robert James, Butch Byrd Kicker – Steve Christie Punter – Brian Moorman Special Teams – Steve Tasker Coach – Marv Levy Second Team Quarterback – Joe Ferguson Running Back – OJ Simpson Wide Receivers – Elbert Dubenion, Bob Chandler, James Lofton Tight End – Jay Riemersma Offensive Line – Joe Devlin, Reggie McKenzie, Al Bemiller, Ruben Brown, Jim Ritcher Defensive Line – Ron McDole, Freddie Smerlas, Ted Washington Linebackers – Takeo Spikes, Harry Jacobs, Bryce Paup, London Fletcher Safeties – Steve Freeman, Mark Kelso Cornerbacks – Booker Edgerson, Nate Odomes Kicker – Rian Lindell Punter – Chris Mohr Special Teams – Mark Pike Coach – Lou Saban Honorable Mention Quarterback – Jack Kemp Running Back – Cookie Gilchrist Wide Receivers – Lee Evans, Frank Lewis, Peerless Price Tight End – Reuben Gant Offensive Line – Jason Peters, Ken Jones, Stew Barber, Dave Foley, John Fina Defensive Line – Aaron Schobel, Jim Dunaway, Pat Williams Linebackers – Jim Haslett, Shane Nelson, Sam Cowart, Chris Spielman Safeties – Henry Jones, Leonard Smith Cornerbacks – Nate Clements, Antoine Winfield Kicker – Scott Norwood Punter – Paul Maguire Special Teams – Terrence McGee Coach – Chuck Knox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 With regards to actual football talent, how can OJ not be voted to the all-time team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 While all the selections are great ballplayers, it is strange they allowed 4 guards on the OL and ignored anyone who played tackle. (????) It is also strange they allowed only one RB - I know they said they were going with a 3 WR offense, but sometimes - at least half the time we run a 2-back offense - so their s/b 2 RBs on the team. Or a fullback - Gilchrist gets my vote. I also question the LBs - 3 of the 4 are from the SB era - Buscuit - Talley - Conlon. Really? No Spielman, Jacobs, or anyone else I cannot recall here? All these oddities, but they select a ST player - Tasker? I don't know who set the guidelines for this team, but I would put my money on the 25th Anniversay team vs the 50th Anniversay Team any day. Bruce (25th Anniv Team) would blow past any of the guards playing tackle and Kelly (50th Anniv Team) wouldn't make it through the 1st Qtr!!! I know in Spielman's case they had to have been with the Bills for 4 seasons to qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I was bored weeks ago.....still bored really .........but came up with 3 teams Bills Golden Anniversary Team First Team Quarterback – Jim Kelly Running Back – Thurman Thomas Wide Receivers – Andre Reed, Eric Moulds, Jerry Butler Tight End – Pete Metzelaars Offensive Line – Will Wolford, Joe DeLamielleure, Kent Hull, Billy Shaw, House Ballard Defensive Line – Bruce Smith, Tom Sestak, Phil Hansen Linebackers – Mike Stratton, Darryl Talley, Shane Conlan, Cornelius Bennett Safeties – Tony Greene, George Saimes Cornerbacks – Robert James, Butch Byrd Kicker – Steve Christie Punter – Brian Moorman Special Teams – Steve Tasker Coach – Marv Levy Second Team Quarterback – Joe Ferguson Running Back – OJ Simpson Wide Receivers – Elbert Dubenion, Bob Chandler, James Lofton Tight End – Jay Riemersma Offensive Line – Joe Devlin, Reggie McKenzie, Al Bemiller, Ruben Brown, Jim Ritcher Defensive Line – Ron McDole, Freddie Smerlas, Ted Washington Linebackers – Takeo Spikes, Harry Jacobs, Bryce Paup, London Fletcher Safeties – Steve Freeman, Mark Kelso Cornerbacks – Booker Edgerson, Nate Odomes Kicker – Rian Lindell Punter – Chris Mohr Special Teams – Mark Pike Coach – Lou Saban Honorable Mention Quarterback – Jack Kemp Running Back – Cookie Gilchrist Wide Receivers – Lee Evans, Frank Lewis, Peerless Price Tight End – Reuben Gant Offensive Line – Jason Peters, Ken Jones, Stew Barber, Dave Foley, John Fina Defensive Line – Aaron Schobel, Jim Dunaway, Pat Williams Linebackers – Jim Haslett, Shane Nelson, Sam Cowart, Chris Spielman Safeties – Henry Jones, Leonard Smith Cornerbacks – Nate Clements, Antoine Winfield Kicker – Scott Norwood Punter – Paul Maguire Special Teams – Terrence McGee Coach – Chuck Knox Very close to mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 While all the selections are great ballplayers, it is strange they allowed 4 guards on the OL and ignored anyone who played tackle. (????) It is also strange they allowed only one RB - I know they said they were going with a 3 WR offense, but sometimes - at least half the time we run a 2-back offense - so their s/b 2 RBs on the team. Or a fullback - Gilchrist gets my vote. I also question the LBs - 3 of the 4 are from the SB era - Buscuit - Talley - Conlon. Really? No Spielman, Jacobs, or anyone else I cannot recall here? All these oddities, but they select a ST player - Tasker? I don't know who set the guidelines for this team, but I would put my money on the 25th Anniversay team vs the 50th Anniversay Team any day. Bruce (25th Anniv Team) would blow past any of the guards playing tackle and Kelly (50th Anniv Team) wouldn't make it through the 1st Qtr!!! ... except that the 25th Anniversary Team was selected in 1984, when Bruce was still at Virginia Tech. DEs on that team were Ben Williams and Ron McDole. --As already noted, the "strangeness" of a one-RB set disappears when one thinks about the possibility of having to announce O.J.'s name. --They should have broken down the OL into 2 tackles/2 guard/C, but with two HOF guards and Ruben, they weren't going to do that. My five, from right to left: Wolford, DeLamielleure, Hull, Shaw, Barber, keeping together the left side of that dominant AFL line. --Biscuit and Talley were obvious choices along with Stratton; I went with Jacobs over Haslett, and Spielman only played one full season here. --And of COURSE they were going to include Tasker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I figured that they went with the single-back offense and 3-4 defense because that's what the Super Bowl era teams predominantly used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I figured that they went with the single-back offense and 3-4 defense because that's what the Super Bowl era teams predominantly used. That was the excuse, especially for the defense. (I've been told the members of the committee tried to argue both decisions -- with one suggesting they dump the TE if they wanted to keep the third WR -- but the marketing dept. wasn't having any of it.) To me, it's difficult NOT to think there was an ulterior motive behind only allowing one player at a position where there were two Hall of Famers to choose between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Obviously the voting was slanted to the 90s teams - maybe younger voters who don't know anyone from the 60s thru the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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