robkmil Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 could someone explain this rule to me. I don't really know what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I was wondering too lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkmil Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 I was wondering too lol I've heard it mentioned, never seen it why does it happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 he shanked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkmil Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 he shanked it. I saw that, do you know the rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep2evans Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 also confused.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkmil Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 can anybody help us out here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 can anybody help us out here? what was the situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Bill Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I did not see it, but if it followed a fair catch, I believe the team making the fair catch has the option of free kick. I do not know if this is available all game or just under two minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Anytime you fair catch a kick, you have the option of a free kick for a FG. No tee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tux of Borg Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Here is the play by play. 3-7-NYG 23 (9:23) (Shotgun) 13-K.Warner pass short left to 15-S.Breaston to NYG 12 for 11 yards (31-A.Ross). 1-10-NYG 12 (8:40) (Shotgun) 13-K.Warner pass short middle to 81-A.Boldin to NYG 4 for 8 yards (58-A.Pierce). 2-2-NYG 4 (7:55) (Shotgun) 34-T.Hightower left tackle for 4 yards, TOUCHDOWN. (Kick formation) TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. 9-D.Johnson pass to 93-C.Campbell is incomplete. ATTEMPT FAILS. Muffed hold NYG 7 ARZ 9 Plays: 7 Possession: 3:47 New York Giants at 07:51 1-N.Rackers kicks 71 yards from ARI 30 to NYG -1. 44-A.Bradshaw to NYG 21 for 22 yards (46-T.Castille). PENALTY on ARI-22-M.Ware, Offside on Free Kick, 5 yards, enforced at ARI 30 - No Play. 1-N.Rackers kicks 75 yards from ARI 25 to NYG 0. 87-D.Hixon to ARI 17 for 83 yards (21-A.Rolle). 1-10-ARI 17 (7:33) 44-A.Bradshaw left end pushed ob at ARI 15 for 2 yards (24-A.Wilson). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Anytime you fair catch a kick, you have the option of a free kick for a FG. No tee. This is right. Is that what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkmil Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 wow, thank you very much guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Here is the play by play. 3-7-NYG 23 (9:23) (Shotgun) 13-K.Warner pass short left to 15-S.Breaston to NYG 12 for 11 yards (31-A.Ross). 1-10-NYG 12 (8:40) (Shotgun) 13-K.Warner pass short middle to 81-A.Boldin to NYG 4 for 8 yards (58-A.Pierce). 2-2-NYG 4 (7:55) (Shotgun) 34-T.Hightower left tackle for 4 yards, TOUCHDOWN. (Kick formation) TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. 9-D.Johnson pass to 93-C.Campbell is incomplete. ATTEMPT FAILS. Muffed hold NYG 7 ARZ 9 Plays: 7 Possession: 3:47 New York Giants at 07:51 1-N.Rackers kicks 71 yards from ARI 30 to NYG -1. 44-A.Bradshaw to NYG 21 for 22 yards (46-T.Castille). PENALTY on ARI-22-M.Ware, Offside on Free Kick, 5 yards, enforced at ARI 30 - No Play. 1-N.Rackers kicks 75 yards from ARI 25 to NYG 0. 87-D.Hixon to ARI 17 for 83 yards (21-A.Rolle). 1-10-ARI 17 (7:33) 44-A.Bradshaw left end pushed ob at ARI 15 for 2 yards (24-A.Wilson). Looks like that's the wrong play by play, from what I'm reading elsewhere. It seems the play was the last of the first half, and it looks like nucci has the answer above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 FYI, the free kick is also what happens after a safety. The kicking team is allowed to kick it however they want (without a tee), which is why it's called a "free" kick. After a safety, teams always opt to punt on the free kick, but they can kick it off with a holder if they want, or drop-kick it. I've always wondered why teams didn't opt for the holder option after a safety, but Rackers' shank today is probably a hint as to why teams go for the punt option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Anytime you fair catch a kick, you have the option of a free kick for a FG. No tee. I don't get this. Why wouldn't they just go for FG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I don't get this. Why wouldn't they just go for FG? Because with a free kick there is no rush and the kicker can get a head of steam to kick the ball (as opposed to three steps). It basically looks like a kickoff without a tee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Because with a free kick there is no rush and the kicker can get a head of steam to kick the ball (as opposed to three steps). It basically looks like a kickoff without a tee. Ohhh, I guess I never noticed that there was no rush on a free kick after a safety before. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 There is a bit of confusion here between the terminology. After a safety, the team that was scored upon must kick off the ball with a punt, instead of off the tee. This is called a free kick. At the end of a half, if the offensive team punts the ball as time expires, the returning team can fair catch the ball. At the conclusion of that play, they have a free play to attempt a FG (or quite possibly a Hail Mary, but do not quote me on anything inside the parenthesis here). A free play also can occur with a defensive penalty as time expires. On a free play, it is an untimed down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 There is a bit of confusion here between the terminology. After a safety, the team that was scored upon must kick off the ball with a punt, instead of off the tee. This is called a free kick. At the end of a half, if the offensive team punts the ball as time expires, the returning team can fair catch the ball. At the conclusion of that play, they have a free play to attempt a FG (or quite possibly a Hail Mary, but do not quote me on anything inside the parenthesis here). A free play also can occur with a defensive penalty as time expires. On a free play, it is an untimed down. According to everything I've read, this was a free kick and not a "free play." (And I'm not sure that a half can't end on a punt, either, unless the free kick is used.) The free kick, as above, is an unteed place-kick, drop kick, or punt, with no rush on the kicker. It is allowed after any fair catch (including a kickoff fair catch) and is mandatory after a safety. EDIT: From the NFL digest of rules, it appears that the only way to run a play on an expired clock after a punt or kickoff is to use the free kick after a fair catch. Here's the rule: "If time expires while ball is in play and a fair catch is awarded, receiving team may choose to extend the period with one fair catch kick down. However, placekicker may not use tee." http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/faircatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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