Billsfanfourlife Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Ok, so I look at Realfootball365.com's latest mock draft and they have us taking Desean Jackson with the #11 pick. And first I was like wow they know nothing about our team. But then after a little bit of thought, if we did draft him we would have incredible speed on the outside I mean we would have no height in the red zone but who needs the red zone when you can score from 70 yards away. Then in the Slot we have Parrish who can make any one miss (and hopefully they do miss because if that man ever gets caught clean, oh god). What would a defense do to stop that? We could literally be uncoverable, with defenses never knowing where we're going to strike next. Also not to mention he's an electrifying kick returner and could take on the KR duties so we can save McGee from that responsibility. I'm not saying I see the Bills taking Jackson as supposibly he's a "me" first kind of guy, but wow, what an explosive player he is and with two burners on the outside I would not want to face us as a D-coordinator. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPfEkWSEhcY Literally watching this highlight tape blows my mind how ridiculously fast this man is. At the combine they clocked as a 4.35, but supposedly in November of '06 he ran a 4.29 and that my fellow Bills fans is faster than fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Yeah, he is dynamic, and it would give us the fastest trio of WRs in the NFL. But I would not like this pick. The guy is 169lbs. We need someone with some size who can get physical with corners. We need a possession receiver. Lee is the number one/deep threat/burner, Roscoe is a slot guy with great after-the-catch ability, and Josh is a good number four guy. We need that big guy who can out jump a corner for the ball, who can be a match-up problem in the endzone. From watching the games last year, our problem was not having that big target to convert 3rd downs, and always settling for field goals in the redzone. A big WR and a big pass-catching TE ALWAYS present match-up problems for opposing defenses, especially in the redzone; safeties/corners are too small, linebackers are too slow. Sorry to knock your post, but I feel like Jackson is a Parrish double, only with more hype. He's small, fast, agile, and returns punts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sen. John Blutarsky Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 I'm not averse to that but we'd really need to draft another tall WR later on. If we can snag Jackson and Jordy Nelson in round 3 that'd be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyT Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Awesome. Another playmaker to under-utilize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Replying to Can a defense defend 3 Electric Wide Receivers? No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Ok, so I look at Realfootball365.com's latest mock draft and they have us taking Desean Jackson with the #11 pick. And first I was like wow they know nothing about our team. But then after a little bit of thought, if we did draft him we would have incredible speed on the outside I mean we would have no height in the red zone but who needs the red zone when you can score from 70 yards away. Then in the Slot we have Parrish who can make any one miss (and hopefully they do miss because if that man ever gets caught clean, oh god). What would a defense do to stop that? We could literally be uncoverable, with defenses never knowing where we're going to strike next. Also not to mention he's an electrifying kick returner and could take on the KR duties so we can save McGee from that responsibility. I'm not saying I see the Bills taking Jackson as supposibly he's a "me" first kind of guy, but wow, what an explosive player he is and with two burners on the outside I would not want to face us as a D-coordinator. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPfEkWSEhcY Literally watching this highlight tape blows my mind how ridiculously fast this man is. At the combine they clocked as a 4.35, but supposedly in November of '06 he ran a 4.29 and that my fellow Bills fans is faster than fast. That's actually not a bad idea at all. With Evans, Jackson and Parrish in the slot the Bills would be so dangerous if they were all given the chance to actually see a pass thrown their way consistently. If you start thinking who will end up being the better WR between Thomas and Jackson I think I'd have to say that Jackson would be much better. I know it's a gamble going with all smurf WRs, but one that could pay off with loooooong TDs from anywhere on the field. It wouldn't take me long to warm up to the idea of drafting Desean Jackson as our #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 wow, what an explosive player he is and with two burners on the outside I would not want to face us as a D-coordinator. Yeah, the run-n-shoot offense has been a tremendous success in the NFL over the years....Mouse Davis was a frick'n genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Yeah, the run-n-shoot offense has been a tremendous success in the NFL over the years....Mouse Davis was a frick'n genius. Those Kurt Warner Rams sure looked like crap, didn't they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Awesome. Another playmaker to under-utilize. Repeat after me: Fairchild is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKillerRobots Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Yeah, he is dynamic, and it would give us the fastest trio of WRs in the NFL. But I would not like this pick. The guy is 169lbs. We need someone with some size who can get physical with corners. We need a possession receiver. Lee is the number one/deep threat/burner, Roscoe is a slot guy with great after-the-catch ability, and Josh is a good number four guy. We need that big guy who can out jump a corner for the ball, who can be a match-up problem in the endzone. From watching the games last year, our problem was not having that big target to convert 3rd downs, and always settling for field goals in the redzone. A big WR and a big pass-catching TE ALWAYS present match-up problems for opposing defenses, especially in the redzone; safeties/corners are too small, linebackers are too slow. Sorry to knock your post, but I feel like Jackson is a Parrish double, only with more hype. He's small, fast, agile, and returns punts. I wonder if we only need one of the two - either a big, physical WR or a pass-catching, big TE. If we took Jackson and got a big TE, then we might get the best of both worlds - uncoverable, tiny WRs and an uncoverable giant TE. (BTW, taking Jackson, in my opinion, would be a huge mistake - Harvey would be a much better option). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Those Kurt Warner Rams sure looked like crap, didn't they. They didn't use the run and shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Those Kurt Warner Rams sure looked like crap, didn't they. Yeah, how'd I forget about the Rams success, with us playing in the dome stadium in Lancaster and everything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 They didn't use the run and shoot. No sh_t. I was making the point that a team with three very fast smallish receivers CAN win the Superbowl and should have won two of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 No sh_t. I was making the point that a team with three very fast smallish receivers CAN win the Superbowl and should have won two of them. debateable: Isaac Bruce: 6'0" 188 lbs Tory Holt: 6'0" 190 lbs Ricky Proehl: 6'0"190 lbs Az Hakim: 5'10" 188 lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Ok, so I look at Realfootball365.com's latest mock draft and they have us taking Desean Jackson with the #11 pick. And first I was like wow they know nothing about our team. But then after a little bit of thought, if we did draft him we would have incredible speed on the outside I mean we would have no height in the red zone but who needs the red zone when you can score from 70 yards away. Then in the Slot we have Parrish who can make any one miss (and hopefully they do miss because if that man ever gets caught clean, oh god). What would a defense do to stop that? We could literally be uncoverable, with defenses never knowing where we're going to strike next. Also not to mention he's an electrifying kick returner and could take on the KR duties so we can save McGee from that responsibility. I'm not saying I see the Bills taking Jackson as supposibly he's a "me" first kind of guy, but wow, what an explosive player he is and with two burners on the outside I would not want to face us as a D-coordinator. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPfEkWSEhcY Literally watching this highlight tape blows my mind how ridiculously fast this man is. At the combine they clocked as a 4.35, but supposedly in November of '06 he ran a 4.29 and that my fellow Bills fans is faster than fast. 3 electric wide receivers in a Dick Jauron offense are as useful as breasts on a bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 debateable: Isaac Bruce: 6'0" 188 lbs Tory Holt: 6'0" 190 lbs Ricky Proehl: 6'0"190 lbs Az Hakim: 5'10" 188 lbs Splitting hairs here... Lee proved he can get it done big time at 5'9 195 lbs. Parrish was never given a chance but when he was thrown the ball performed very well. Height wasn't a problem, lack of opportunity (see Jauron, Fairchild) was the problem. Jackson looks like he's basically the same size as Hakim. He will probably end up being a better pro WR than Thomas or Sweed. To me, it looks like it has a very good shot at working. They just may need to draft a taller WR (Monk? Hubbard? Urriata?) later on as a specialist for the red zone though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 sure - we'd still need some competent big targets for the middle of the field and the redzone though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Not bad, especially if we trade down, gain another pick, and draft a red zone threat at TE. I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudella Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Splitting hairs here...Lee proved he can get it done big time at 5'9 195 lbs. Parrish was never given a chance but when he was thrown the ball performed very well. Height wasn't a problem, lack of opportunity (see Jauron, Fairchild) was the problem. Jackson looks like he's basically the same size as Hakim. He will probably end up being a better pro WR than Thomas or Sweed. To me, it looks like it has a very good shot at working. They just may need to draft a taller WR (Monk? Hubbard? Urriata?) later on as a specialist for the red zone though. Why will Jackson probably end up being a better pro than Thomas or Sweed? Doesn't add up to me. Maybe im missing the picture, all this time I thought we were trying to add an element to our offense that we have lacked by trying to aquire a redzone threat (taller wide out). A team of tiny recievers doesnt seem like a great idea to me. Especially with Edwards at QB, a big possession wide reciever opposite evans would be great for Trent. If you wanna throw bombs all game to midgets, might as well keep JP in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bdshouter Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 This sure was a fun video to watch. It seemed everytime he touched the ball he scored. Punt returns, short catches, the longball, whatever. To all you people who are worried about the big redzone target a good TE is for that and their are soem in the draft and on the roster. This guy is a playmaker not to be passed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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