bdelma Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 In today rag, which sucks here the football writer says OL in the first round for the Bills. Branden Albert from VA. I think the bills need more help somewhere else. By the way first wideout goes to dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted April 13, 2008 Author Share Posted April 13, 2008 NFL MOCK DRAFT - An Early Look Observer staff writer Charles Chandler predicts how the first round of the NFL draft could go on April 26. Check back for updates next Sunday and on draft day. Pick Team Player Pos. School Comment 1. Miami Jake Long OT Michigan Is Bill Parcells bluffing with early contract negotiations? 2. St. Louis Chris Long DE Virginia DT Glenn Dorsey another option as Rams beef up defensive line 3. Atlanta Glenn Dorsey DT LSU Falcons must improve defensive line; QB Matt Ryan a possibility 4. Oakland Darren McFadden RB Arkansas Al Davis loves speed; Gholston possibility, too. 5. Kansas City Ryan Clady OT Boise State Chiefs are in dire need of offensive line help. EXTRA, EXTRA: If Jake Long is gone, the Chiefs might try to trade down. They need a tackle, but this might be too high to take any of them. 6. N.Y. Jets Vernon Gholston DE Ohio State Would gladly take McFadden, too x-7. New England Leodis McKelvin CB Troy Patriots could deal down or take DT Sedrick Ellis 8. Baltimore Matt Ryan QB Boston College Ravens' QB situation is in dire straits; OL also an option EXTRA, EXTRA: Watch out if Ryan doesn't go here. The Panthers could take him at No. 13 if another team doesn't trade up to get him first. 9. Cincinnati Sedrick Ellis DT So. Cal. Bengals are concerned he won't be available here 10. New Orleans Keith Rivers LB So. Cal. This would further improve Saints' revamped LB corps 11. Buffalo Branden Albert OL Virginia Bills put WR need on hold and get promising blocker 12. Denver Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt Broncos need tackle help; also could take a RB 13. Carolina Jeff Otah OT Pittsburgh Powerful run blocker, but RBs Stewart, Mendenhall are enticing. EXTRA, EXTRA: If the Panthers don't trade out of the No. 13 spot, three more players to watch closely are Clady, Ryan and defensive end Derrick Harvey. If they trade down, be on the lookout for tackle Gosder Cherilus. 14. Chicago Rashard Mendenhall RB Illinois The Cedric Benson waiting game is over 15. Detroit Derrick Harvey DE Florida Chance for a top pass rusher here is too good to pass up 16. Arizona Mike Jenkins CB S. Florida Cards' defense ranked 28th vs. pass last season 17. Minnesota Phillip Merling DE Clemson Vikings could go for a WR EXTRA, EXTRA: If a second QB goes in the first round, it's likely to be Louisville's Brian Brohm. The Vikings are a potential destination. 18. Houston D. Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tenn. St. Texans need defensive help and are surprised he's here 19. Philadelphia Jerod Mayo LB Tennessee Athletic and strong; Mayo could be one of draft's best deals 20. Tampa Bay Aqib Talib CB Kansas Bucs need young legs in the secondary 21. Washington Calais Campbell DE Miami, Fla. Is this a misprint? Redskins with a draft pick?! y-22. Dallas Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon Will Cowboys try to trade up for McFadden? 23. Pittsburgh Gosder Cherilus OT Boston College Steelers need muscle up front but could also eye RB Stewart 24. Tennessee Kentwan Balmer DT N. Carolina Titans need to reload on their defensive line after depletions 25. Seattle Kenny Phillips S Miami, Fla. Seahawks' secondary could use a playmaker 26. Jacksonville Lawrence Jackson DE So. Cal. A bit of a reach, but Jags need defensive line help 27. San Diego Felix Jones RB Arkansas Chargers land a replacement for Michael Turner EXTRA, EXTRA: East Carolina RB/KR Chris Johnson is another possibility. His 4.24 speed in the 40-yard dash gives him a chance to go somewhere in Round 1. 28. Dallas Devin Thomas WR Michigan St. Cowboys start planning for future at receiver z-29. San Francisco DeSean Jackson WR California Why not pick a wideout being tutored by Jerry Rice? 30. Green Bay Brandon Flowers CB Virginia Tech Packers address their biggest need 31. N.Y. Giants James Hardy WR Indiana Giants need a complement to Plaxico Burress NOTES: New England forfeited it's first-round pick. X: From San Francisco; Y: From Cleveland; Z: From Indianapolis -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I think the bills need more help somewhere else. Yes but big bodies usually pan out well early in the draft, as opposed to tiny skill guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 it all starts in the trenches. depending what D guys are still there or not, Oline might not be that bad of a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofton80 Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 That would be a great choice. Maybe we could start converting on third and 1. Plenty of wr's and corners available in round 2 and 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted April 13, 2008 Author Share Posted April 13, 2008 Yes but big bodies usually pan out well early in the draft, as opposed to tiny skill guys. Mike Williams really played well, didn't he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 as a sidenote: the bills took Jim Ritcher 16th in 1980 and he ended up being a huge part of our success... that being said, the redskins took Art Monk 2 picks later, so maybe we should draft Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Mike Williams really played well, didn't he. and then donahoe said that if he did ever have a top 5 pick again, he'd trade out of it at any opportunity and that was 1 big flop from an early pick. so then what? you NEVER go after big talent at that position again? you wait til later when you can get picks like Justin Geisinger and Dylan McFarland and Mike Pucillo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Mike Williams really played well, didn't he. 1. Houston David Carr QB Fresno State 2. Carolina Julius Peppers DE North Carolina 3. Detroit Joey Harrington QB Oregon 4. Buffalo Mike Williams OT Texas 5. San Diego Quentin Jammer CB Texas 6. Kansas City (from Dallas) Ryan Sims DT North Carolina 7. Minnesota Bryant McKinnie OT Miami (Fla) 8.Dallas (from Kansas City) Roy Williams SS Oklahoma 9. Jacksonville John Henderson DT Tennessee 10. Cincinnati Levi Jones OT Arizona State 11. Indianapolis Dwight Freeney DE Syracuse 12. Arizona Wendell Bryant DT Wisconsin 13. New Orleans Donte Stallworth WR Tennessee 14. NY Giants (from Tennessee) Jeremy Shockey TE Miami (Fla) 15. Tennessee (from NY Giants) Albert Haynesworth DT Tennessee 16. Cleveland William Green RB Boston College 17. Oakland (from Atlanta) Phillip Buchanon CB Miami (Fla) 18. Atlanta (from Washington through Oakland) T.J. Duckett RB Michigan State 19. Denver Ashley Lelie WR Hawaii 20. Green Bay (from Seattle) Javon Walker WR Florida State 21. New England (from Tampa Bay through Oakland and Washington) Daniel Graham TE Colorado 22. NY Jets Bryan Thomas DE Alabama-Birmingham 23. Oakland Napolean Harris OLB Northwestern 24. Baltimore Edward Reed S Miami (FLA) 25. New Orleans (from Miami) Charles Grant DE Georgia 26. Philadelphia Lito Sheppard CB Florida 27. San Francisco Mike Rumph CB Miami (Fla) 28. Seattle (from Green Bay) Jerramy Stevens TE Washington 29. Chicago Marc Colombo OT Boston College 30. Pittsburgh Kendall Simmons OG Auburn 31. St. Louis Robert Thomas MLB UCLA 32. Washington (from New England) Patrick Ramsey QB Tulane If the Bills drafed any of these guys that year, you wouldn't be complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Mike Williams really played well, didn't he. I think he meant true blue chip lineman as opposed to guys that are freakishly huge with ballerina feet. Obviously, the latter must be great, ala Williams, cause everybody enthusiastically stroked Donahoe for the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Mike Williams really played well, didn't he. Yes, Big Mike proved that no OL is every worthy of being drafted in the top 15 ever again.... (that Joe Thomas guy's pretty good, though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 2. Carolina Julius Peppers DE North Carolina 7. Minnesota Bryant McKinnie OT Miami (Fla) 9. Jacksonville John Henderson DT Tennessee 10. Cincinnati Levi Jones OT Arizona State 11. Indianapolis Dwight Freeney DE Syracuse 15. Tennessee (from NY Giants) Albert Haynesworth DT Tennessee 25. New Orleans (from Miami) Charles Grant DE Georgia 29. Chicago Marc Colombo OT Boston College 30. Pittsburgh Kendall Simmons OG Auburn If the Bills drafed any of these guys that year, you wouldn't be complaining. Yes, it would be nice to have a 100% failproof crystal ball to consult every year.... I'd add Ed Reed to that 'keeper list, BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 In today rag, which sucks here the football writer says OL in the first round for the Bills. Branden Albert from VA. I think the bills need more help somewhere else. By the way first wideout goes to dallas. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Buffalo took Albert. I'd give it a 30% chance of happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 In today rag, which sucks here the football writer says OL in the first round for the Bills. Branden Albert from VA. I think the bills need more help somewhere else. By the way first wideout goes to dallas. Now that's just insane. Why would we need another guy for the OL. It's probably the best spot on our team. We are already an elite OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Now that's just insane. Why would we need another guy for the OL. It's probably the best spot on our team. We are already an elite OL. just... no... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stenbar Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Now that's just insane. Why would we need another guy for the OL. It's probably the best spot on our team. We are already an elite OL. Elite?? What happened to our offense against the Giants when Peters went down?? I think we are 1 very good starter and 1 very good backup away from being an elite oline.. Maybe whittle can be the backup but he has to stay healthy all year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Yes, it would be nice to have a 100% failproof crystal ball to consult every year.... I'd add Ed Reed to that 'keeper list, BTW. It wasn't a keep list, just a list of first round big bodies that turned into great players as opposed to the best players form that draft. Their were 13 linemen drafted in the first round in 2002, 9 of which turned into great players. Looking at skill guys (QB, RB, WR), 8 were drafted, and 2 (walker and stallworth) only developed into real players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Elite?? What happened to our offense against the Giants when Peters went down?? I think we are 1 very good starter and 1 very good backup away from being an elite oline.. Maybe whittle can be the backup but he has to stay healthy all year.. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Elite?? What happened to our offense against the Giants when Peters went down?? I think we are 1 very good starter and 1 very good backup away from being an elite oline.. Maybe whittle can be the backup but he has to stay healthy all year.. I'd like to use the the 3rd and one in the Dallas Monday Nighter game as an example. We then went go for it on 4th down and promptly got stuffed. If Harvey is gone and Albert is there, then I'm all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ax4782 Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I would agree that right now the line is above average, but no elite. We can do perfectly fine this season with what we have. That said, O-Line is a place where talented players are at a premium. I would rather we not draft Albert there. I tend to think that lineman from Virginia have been overrated the last few years, with Ferguson as a prime example. Albert is a good player and would likely be another above average player at RG. However, that spot is not a NEED position in the way that WR, CB, TE are NEED positions. We need top talent in those spots after this draft. I would not be surprised to see us trade back in exchange for an additional second or third round pick so that we can get four top playmakers on day one. Two WRs a TE and a CB, though not necessarily in that order. I wouldn't hate the Albert pick but I would question it with everything that we need on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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