Fingon Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I keep hearing about how he will be such a great player from Jets fans. Yet, he had a DREADFUL rookie season. He is close to last among LT's in sacks allowed with 10. Those are Robert Gallery numbers folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I keep hearing about how he will be such a great player from Jets fans. Yet, he had a DREADFUL rookie season. He is close to last among LT's in sacks allowed with 10. Those are Robert Gallery numbers folks. scoebel lit him up for 3 sacks in new jersey. i agree with you the guy is nothing special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I keep hearing about how he will be such a great player from Jets fans. Yet, he had a DREADFUL rookie season. He is close to last among LT's in sacks allowed with 10. Those are Robert Gallery numbers folks. They're also Walter Jones numbers, arguably the best Left OT in the league, who gave up 10.5 sacks last season. Also if you prorate Orlando Pace's under a full season he would of given up 9.0 sacks this season in 16 games. While Ferguson struggled to call him (or any player) a bust after their first season is a bit questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted March 1, 2007 Author Share Posted March 1, 2007 They're also Walter Jones numbers, arguably the best Left OT in the league, who gave up 10.5 sacks last season. Also if you prorate Orlando Pace's under a full season he would of given up 9.0 sacks this season in 16 games. While Ferguson struggled to call him (or any player) a bust after their first season is a bit questionable. WJ was horrible last season. Apparently, he had some ankle injury... he shouldn't have even played. D'Brick is on the road to being a bust though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLocke Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Offensive linemen take a long time to develop. To call D'Brickashaw Ferguson a bust after his first season is foolish. Wait untill the end of his 3rd season before making any judgements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I was shocked at his play last season......I wanted him in Buffalo......shows how much I know! Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Offensive linemen take a long time to develop. To call D'Brickashaw Ferguson a bust after his first season is foolish. Wait untill the end of his 3rd season before making any judgements. How about Jason Peters. He looks pretty good, undrafted kid. Jason wasn't taughted in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Jason wasn't taughted in college. Were you? I keed, I keed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted March 1, 2007 Author Share Posted March 1, 2007 Offensive linemen take a long time to develop. To call D'Brickashaw Ferguson a bust after his first season is foolish. Wait untill the end of his 3rd season before making any judgements. I said he was on the road to becoming a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 he seems to get praised a lot in the media even though he really didn't play well. Unlike Gallery though he actually looks like he could become a good player. Gallery looks like Dylan McFarland out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Stats mean nothing with respect to the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Those are Robert Gallery numbers folks. Raiders are moving Gallery to right tackle. I'm not a position guy, so I don't know if this is a strategic move or a demotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLocke Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 How about Jason Peters. He looks pretty good, undrafted kid. Jason wasn't taughted in college. This was Peters third season in the league. Right around the time offensive linemen start to come around. To compare D'Brickashaw Ferguson to him is unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I keep hearing about how he will be such a great player from Jets fans. Yet, he had a DREADFUL rookie season. He is close to last among LT's in sacks allowed with 10. Those are Robert Gallery numbers folks. Regardless, the Jets had a decent season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 This was Peters third season in the league. Right around the time offensive linemen start to come around. To compare D'Brickashaw Ferguson to him is unfair. An undrafted dude against a number four overall pick? Completely unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Stats mean nothing with respect to the OL. Yeah, after all, its not like giving up 0 sacks or 20 sacks makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLocke Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 An undrafted dude against a number four overall pick? Completely unfair. I'm a big Peters fan. I get many of my American stations from Boston because of where I live in Canada and saw Bill Bellechick talking up Peters one time and he had a lot of positive things to say about him. D'Brickashaw Ferguson will have plenty of time to prove himself. Comparing guys who have one full season under their belt at LT is foolish. wait another 2 years and then compare Peters and Ferguson and see who is better. Point well taken, though about not expecting as much from and UDFA versus a high first round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmdevisser Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I dont think it is so very impertinent to compare the two, this was, after all, Jason Peter's first season at LT as well. He was originally thought to be a TE even when he got into training camp and wasnt converted to a tackle until mid way through his second season...so if anything, fergueson has had a far greater amount of time at LT than peters correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 schobel lit him up for 3 sacks in new jersey. i agree with you the guy is nothing special. Another Mike Williams???????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 scoebel lit him up for 3 sacks in new jersey. i agree with you the guy is nothing special. to be fair, IIRC schobel got two of those in garbage time on the backup QB who had no pocket prescence (Clemens i think?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I think ferguson will eventually be good at pass protection my biggest issue with him is he's a finese tackle who will get rolled as a run blocker, making him rather average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 my deal with Brick last year was that. Typically rookies struggle at LT, and he would have to start his career at RT, the problem is he doesn't have the size to play RT, his playing weight during the season was around 275. at 275 he would have been an average sized lineman in 86. That is why i was happy to see him drafted by anyone other than Buffalo. Don't tell me about McNeill, I agree he had a great rookie year, but he at least he had the size if anything prior to being drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 my deal with Brick last year was that. Typically rookies struggle at LT, and he would have to start his career at RT, the problem is he doesn't have the size to play RT, his playing weight during the season was around 275. at 275 he would have been an average sized lineman in 86. That is why i was happy to see him drafted by anyone other than Buffalo. Don't tell me about McNeill, I agree he had a great rookie year, but he at least he had the size if anything prior to being drafted. You mean Ferguson needs to get some more of D'Bricks in his rikishaw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Yeah, after all, its not like giving up 0 sacks or 20 sacks makes a difference. Because you can tell the difference between giving up 4 or 7 sacks? This is about sacks as a measure of quality of OL. It accounts for neither the play nor the scheme called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShirley Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I dont think it is so very impertinent to compare the two, this was, after all, Jason Peter's first season at LT as well. He was originally thought to be a TE even when he got into training camp and wasnt converted to a tackle until mid way through his second season...so if anything, fergueson has had a far greater amount of time at LT than peters correct? I am glad you made this point. People failed to mention that he was a converted TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Because you can tell the difference between giving up 4 or 7 sacks? This is about sacks as a measure of quality of OL. It accounts for neither the play nor the scheme called. Sacks are one part of an overall evaluation of an offensive lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Personally, I'd prefer to just call him a bust now and get it over with. It makes me feel better and validates me as a Bills fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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