Simon Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Every time I see a discussion about WR's it always seems to involve the Bills need for and how they will go about getting that #2 wide-out who might be a bigger threat in the redzone or can dictate mismatches against smaller corners. I have my doubts whether teh Bills are even interested in such a player. As far as I know Fairchild cut his teeth working with the Rams offense. Can anybody name the the last big possession receiver the Rams utilized in their offense? They've been running with speedy guys who run tight routes ala Bruce, Holt, Hakim, Proehl, etc for years now. And with the leagues new emphasis on not allowing DB's to play football, those smaller faster receivers (SSmith, Marvin, Galloway, SMoss, DDriver, etc) are now much freer to shake loose than they have ever been before. With the Bills O-coordinator having shown no predilection for bigger taller receivers in his previous gig and the NFL rules giving more advantages to smaller quicker receivers, I would expect teh Bills to continue their ongoing interest in guys who are quicker as opposed to guys who are longer <insert size doesn't matter joke here>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Every time I see a discussion about WR's it always seems to involve the Bills need for and how they will go about getting that #2 wide-out who might be a bigger threat in the redzone or can dictate mismatches against smaller corners. I have my doubts whether teh Bills are even interested in such a player.As far as I know Fairchild cut his teeth working with the Rams offense. Can anybody name the the last big possession receiver the Rams utilized in their offense? They've been running with speedy guys who run tight routes ala Bruce, Holt, Hakim, Proehl, etc for years now. And with the leagues new emphasis on not allowing DB's to play football, those smaller faster receivers (SSmith, Marvin, Galloway, SMoss, DDriver, etc) are now much freer to shake loose than they have ever been before. With the Bills O-coordinator having shown no predilection for bigger taller receivers in his previous gig and the NFL rules giving more advantages to smaller quicker receivers, I would expect teh Bills to continue their ongoing interest in guys who are quicker as opposed to guys who are longer <insert size doesn't matter joke here>. I was a proponent of the larger Red Zone threat but I'm not nearly as concerned with it after watching JP in the RZ this year. What I would like to see is possibly bringing in a Vet who can fill in as a possession WR. He doesn't exactly have to be Shawn Bradley, but a good underneath WR with seasoned route running would help out a lot on 3rd down. Issac Bruce seemed to fit that role when Holt came into his own. Moulds seemed to fit the role with us before he left for Houston. We need to get better on 3rd down, and we should by bringing in that Vet and improving our run blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 All they really need is a TE who can stretch the field and make plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 What I would like to see is possibly bringing in a Vet who can fill in as a possession WR. He doesn't exactly have to be Shawn Bradley, but a good underneath WR with seasoned route running would help out a lot on 3rd down.....We need to get better on 3rd down, and we should by bringing in that Vet and improving our run blocking. The Bills may feel they already have that guy in Josh Reed. And the signing of Price may have been a misguided attempt to find that Isaac Bruce type of player to run across from Evans/Holt. If the Bills do go looking for another WR, I'm inclined to think they're going to be looking for another speedy starter like Bruce instead of the blocking/possession receiver that they already feel they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 All they really need is a TE who can stretch the field and make plays. Word, I dunno why people are so pre-occupied with height; just find a player at WR or TE who is better than Price and/or Royal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBilliever Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Am I confused or was I dreaming that Royal played well this year? And Peerless played his lil' heart out too... If we wanted a height reciever we would've kept Martin Nance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 The Bills may feel they already have that guy in Josh Reed.And the signing of Price may have been a misguided attempt to find that Isaac Bruce type of player to run across from Evans/Holt. If the Bills do go looking for another WR, I'm inclined to think they're going to be looking for another speedy starter like Bruce instead of the blocking/possession receiver that they already feel they have. I don't think Reed is polished enough to be that guy. I just don't put him in that class in terms of route running, or being refined like a sound vet. Then again I just looked at what’s available and I can't say I can find a player I'm talking about. Not one Bill Brooks in the group. A lot of the 3rd down issues also seemed to come from a lacking ground game. We just need to improve on 3rd down, especially if we have playoff aspirations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Am I confused or was I dreaming that Royal played well this year? And Peerless played his lil' heart out too... If we wanted a height reciever we would've kept Martin Nance. Royal is a nice player but more and more teams are using 2 te systems these days. 2 te's lead to very productive redzone offenses. It's worked for ne/indy/the chiefs/sd etc etc for the past few years. As a decent player as roayl is another pure receiving te would do wonders especially for the redzone offense forcing teams to stay honest against the run and pass. It allows you to do much more with your run game as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBilliever Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Oh they mean we need someone opposite Royal... ok THAT would make sense seeming as how Everett is a joke and Cieslak is too raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDTRFB Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 The speed wr's Fairchild had with the Rams fit a dome team perfectly. Playing outdoors changes the offense a little. A big possession receiver to move the chains and go over the middle would help open up the deep ball but that is pretty far down on my wish list. We have other holes to address first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 The speed wr's Fairchild had with the Rams fit a dome team perfectly. Playing outdoors changes the offense a little. That's a very good point. It's definitely a little bit tougher to be goin' down the field feelin' good when The Hawk is ahowlin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 System people are a joke- oh he's great but he doesn't fit our system- football people generally seem about 40 IQ points below the real world - therefore a football genius would have like a 110 real world IQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Not many #2 Wrs will be hitting free agency this year. Wait till next year, if possible. I'm not saying we shouldn't get a #2 wr but they're aren't many good ones out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Am I confused or was I dreaming that Royal played well this year? I'm not trying to be a prick but is this based on something other than like 2-3 plays in the December Jets/Dolphins games? I remember Lonnie Johnson torching the Jets when Todd Collins was here and he said after the game: "every dog has his day". That's about how I feel about Royal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I'm not trying to be a prick but is this based on something other than like 2-3 plays in the December Jets/Dolphins games? I remember Lonnie Johnson torching the Jets when Todd Collins was here and he said after the game: "every dog has his day". That's about how I feel about Royal. September - 3 games TOTAL 3 37 12.3 20 0 October- 4 games TOTAL 6 57 9.5 21 0 November- 4 games TOTAL 5 28 5.6 9 0 December- 5 games TOTAL 9 111 12.3 33 3 Definitely not premiere numbers but compared to what we've had at te lately I think Royal is better then them. I'd much prefer to go to a 2 te set offense, with a more reliable receiving te but royal played well at the end of the year considering the type of player he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I'm not trying to be a prick but is this based on something other than like 2-3 plays in the December Jets/Dolphins games? I remember Lonnie Johnson torching the Jets when Todd Collins was here and he said after the game: "every dog has his day". That's about how I feel about Royal. Royal was actually one of the best free agent signings by the Bills in YEARS, IMO. He did a lot of subtle things to help this team, including providing some veteran leadership on a young offense, solid blocking, physicality, etc. He would be an amazing #2TE. What they really need is another TE who can really run and move LBs and safeties around to open up the rest of the passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Sign Daniel Graham for a very solid two TE set (and they both are good blockers!) complimented by our 4 reciever smurf-set outside the red zone. I personally will be very happy if we did this and sign one free agent and draft one Olineman for the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Oh they mean we need someone opposite Royal... ok THAT would make sense seeming as how Everett is a joke and Cieslak is too raw. Has Everett really gotten a chance? I want to see him play more and get some opportunities. This new staff has been pretty high on him, I think (DJ is always saying how he's coming along and last season was really his rookie year, because of his injury). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Who wouldn't want it bigger and longer? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_Chick Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 All they really need is a TE who can stretch the field and make plays. Exactly. We need a good TE for once. Label Everett a bust and Royal a #2 and get a good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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