2003 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 "As a result, word is the Bills have made the run defense a top priority this coming offseason. They’ll definitely be in the market for a run-stuffing defensive tackle, and it’s also likely that they will look to replace MLB London Fletcher with a bigger player." http://profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+W...tm?mode=afceast Who is a run stuffing DT FA? Ian Scott? Terdell Sands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 "As a result, word is the Bills have made the run defense a top priority this coming offseason. They’ll definitely be in the market for a run-stuffing defensive tackle, and it’s also likely that they will look to replace MLB London Fletcher with a bigger player." http://profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+W...tm?mode=afceast Who is a run stuffing DT FA? Ian Scott? Terdell Sands? Pat Williams. Oops nevermind we already !@#$ed that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Pat Williams. Oops nevermind we already !@#$ed that up. I think that letting Big Pat go is the single most damning aspect of the old regime. Unforgiveable, and we're still suffering for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 "As a result, word is the Bills have made the run defense a top priority this coming offseason. They’ll definitely be in the market for a run-stuffing defensive tackle, and it’s also likely that they will look to replace MLB London Fletcher with a bigger player." This is interesting to you lol? Did you not already know this? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buford T. Justice Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 This is interesting to you lol? Did you not already know this? lol Apparently PFW didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJsackedagain Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Stop the presses - the Bills need help with their run defense. Wow how did they come up with such top-secret stuff, do you think Soprano is working for them now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 This is interesting to you lol? Did you not already know this? lol Not that I trust PFW, but after Ralph Wilson's statement about getting help on OL as being important, it is not too clear whether DL or OL will be the top priority. I think it will come down to which FAs hit the market (as opposed to being retained by their original team). If it is a Steinbach, OL will become 'top priority' ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumping platelets Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Bills offered similar money over 3 yrs, Pat Williams left because Minnesota gave a bit more upfront.......I do not blame the Bills, who BTW, gave "Big Pat" his opportunity as an UDFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Pat also at least claimed that he didn't like how he was treated by Donahoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Pat Williams. Oops nevermind we already !@#$ed that up. Beat me to the punch......... If I can recall, Pat Williams LOVED playing in Buffalo? Why did we let him go anyways? Ron Edwards was suppose to take his place right? I couldnt imagine Pat Williams with this defense. He would have done wonders! Ian Scott is a guy that I like, I dont know much about that Terd in Oakland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I think that letting Big Pat go is the single most damning aspect of the old regime. Unforgiveable, and we're still suffering for it. amen! Big time !@#$up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike formerly from Florida Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Bills offered similar money over 3 yrs, Pat Williams left because Minnesota gave a bit more upfront.......I do not blame the Bills, who BTW, gave "Big Pat" his opportunity as an UDFA Big deal--you don't blame the Bills. OK, I blame Tom Donohoe. There are certain players you pay as much as it takes to keep. Tom obviously doesn't really know football (that's right--I said it) if he didn't have the foresight that 80% of this board had---the #2 defenses would suffer immensely. The day Pat left, our run defense went with him. Now we're having fun trying to replace a guy that comes along every 10 years-UDFA or not. TD=Aszhole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Big deal--you don't blame the Bills. OK, I blame Tom Donohoe. There are certain players you pay as much as it takes to keep. The less upfront represented a hometown discount to the team that gave him a chance as an UDFA. But Fat Pat decided to be a greedy sumbiyatch. Hopefully the additional upfront money was worth the losing in Minny and getting beaten beaten by the Bills this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I think that letting Big Pat go is the single most damning aspect of the old regime. Unforgiveable, and we're still suffering for it. I wish we could all see the board sentiment at the time he left. Anyone who dared to suggest we'd suffer was labeled as a blasphemer, as the "experts" proclaimed his loss to be of mimimal impact. Interesting to see how things change over time. http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...hl=Pat+Williams http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...hl=Pat+Williams http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...hl=Pat+Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 The less upfront represented a hometown discount to the team that gave him a chance as an UDFA. But Fat Pat decided to be a greedy sumbiyatch. Hopefully the additional upfront money was worth the losing in Minny and getting beaten beaten by the Bills this year. Is that in contrast to all the winning we've been doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I wish we could all see the board sentiment at the time he left. Anyone who dared to suggest we'd suffer was labeled as a blasphemer, as the "experts" proclaimed his loss to be of mimimal impact. Interesting to see how things change over time. http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...hl=Pat+Williams http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...hl=Pat+Williams http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...hl=Pat+Williams I remember having all these stats thrown at me proving that Edwards was better, that Pat was past his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT/Fordham Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I think we need a big DT but I don't know if there are any in the FA market. The good ones in the draft I think will be gone early and I think that we should use the 12 pick on the MLB from Ole Miss, Patrick Willis. Fletcher definitly isn't coming back and this guy is the ideal replacement. 6'2, 240 with 4.4, 4.5 speed. This guys is gonna be a true monster and if he falls to us, we would be clinically insane to pass him up. Also, we signed Tripplett last year (how long?) and drafted McCargo and Williams so I'm not sure how Marv's gonna approach that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoondckCL Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Bills offered similar money over 3 yrs, Pat Williams left because Minnesota gave a bit more upfront.......I do not blame the Bills, who BTW, gave "Big Pat" his opportunity as an UDFA If I do recall, Pat Williams came out after he signed with Minny and said that the Bills didn't even offer him a contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumping platelets Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Big deal--you don't blame the Bills. OK, I blame Tom Donohoe. There are certain players you pay as much as it takes to keep. Tom obviously doesn't really know football (that's right--I said it) if he didn't have the foresight that 80% of this board had---the #2 defenses would suffer immensely. The day Pat left, our run defense went with him. Now we're having fun trying to replace a guy that comes along every 10 years-UDFA or not. TD=Aszhole. No, it's not a big deal because, as someone said, Big Pat clearly was interested in the highest bidder. Minnesota also had a huge salary cap advantage and was able to give him a roster bonus instead of signing bonus. This is why Minnesota was able to give more upfront than the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Is that in contrast to all the winning we've been doing? Fat Pat could have helped the Bills win than he has helped the Vikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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