millstone twnsp nj bills fan Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 In our never ending search for some quality interior d- lineman why not try to convert Mike Williams to a nose tackle or D tackle? We all say he sucks as a pass blocker but is decent in the run game. A true 2-gap nose tackle is really nothing more than a blocker. His job is to tie up linemen so the linebackers can make plays. Mike W is what 375lbs? If that tub of goo can't clog the middle then who can? He is still a young player. Rather than cut him which will cost a lot of cap dollars in dead money, why not consider him for the D-line? I realize that Jauron just said today that we will play a 4-3 next season but I still think Big Mike should get a look at D tackle simply because he's huge and I hate dead cap space. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 :sigh: And with that...I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I like $4.9M cap savings a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 In our never ending search for some quality interior d- lineman why not try to convert Mike Williams to a nose tackle or D tackle? We all say he sucks as a pass blocker but is decent in the run game. A true 2-gap nose tackle is really nothing more than a blocker. His job is to tie up linemen so the linebackers can make plays. Mike W is what 375lbs? If that tub of goo can't clog the middle then who can? He is still a young player. Rather than cut him which will cost a lot of cap dollars in dead money, why not consider him for the D-line? I realize that Jauron just said today that we will play a 4-3 next season but I still think Big Mike should get a look at D tackle simply because he's huge and I hate dead cap space. Any thoughts? 593597[/snapback] if mike williams cant stop the guys running past him, what makes you think he could be the guy running past them? He's not getting past anybody, and that is a liability. He used to come in at DT on the goal line, which i have no problem with because he doesnt really have to do anything other than stand there, but you cant do that in the middle of the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonprophet Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Others, including myself, have floated that idea before so, naturally, I like it. Without the zone blitz—now that the Bills D will be Cover 2—the NT job gets even easier: it's pretty much just blocking, as you said. Williams was, if I remember correctly, effective as a lane clogger in limited use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 He already reported (check the sound bytes) that he is completely willing to take a pay cut, whether he stays at tackle or moves to RG. Re: DT, I've heard stranger ideas that have worked before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 This thread is offensive to fat people and professional defensive tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millstone twnsp nj bills fan Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 I like $4.9M cap savings a lot more. 593608[/snapback] Actually, if guys are running past MW and he is occupying two blockers then I would assume that one of our star linebackers would have a clean shot at any runner that is " running by him". Since our LB's are all world it should be no problem for them to hold the guy to @ a 2 yd gain. In cover two we are in official " Bend but don't break" land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 This thread is offensive to fat people and professional defensive tackles. 593621[/snapback] Oh please. Don't you know that switching positions along the line, and apparently on either side of the ball, is just that easy? In fact I say we just draft for size from now on instead of pesky things like talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millstone twnsp nj bills fan Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 This thread is offensive to fat people and professional defensive tackles. 593621[/snapback] Do you remember Gilbert Brown? I doubt that fat tub had any more talent or skill than our beloved MW. He was however able to occupy at least two blockers so that our new lb coach could make tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB2004 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 In our never ending search for some quality interior d- lineman why not try to convert Mike Williams to a nose tackle or D tackle? We all say he sucks as a pass blocker but is decent in the run game. A true 2-gap nose tackle is really nothing more than a blocker. His job is to tie up linemen so the linebackers can make plays. Mike W is what 375lbs? If that tub of goo can't clog the middle then who can? He is still a young player. Rather than cut him which will cost a lot of cap dollars in dead money, why not consider him for the D-line? I realize that Jauron just said today that we will play a 4-3 next season but I still think Big Mike should get a look at D tackle simply because he's huge and I hate dead cap space. Any thoughts? 593597[/snapback] First we have to be keeping him at a reduced contract, that is if we decide to keep him. Then, we have to ask him if he wants to play that position, and I don't think that would work. They tried him out at LG last year for a game and that didn't work. Personally, if they want to give him another chance at a reduced pay at RT, I'm for it. When he was run blocking, I'm not sure that there was anyone better on our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millstone twnsp nj bills fan Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 Oh please. Don't you know that switching positions along the line, and apparently on either side of the ball, is just that easy? In fact I say we just draft for size from now on instead of pesky things like talent. 593645[/snapback] Oh please, we can put defensive lineman on offense but not the reverse? I coach high school football and we do this all the time. I'm not saying it would work but is it worth investigating? I think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I coach high school football and we do this all the time. 593665[/snapback] Oh for the love of God.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Mike Williams isn't tough enough to play Nose Picker, yet alone Nose Guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millstone twnsp nj bills fan Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 Oh for the love of God.... 593673[/snapback] Hey Faustus, it might be better if you finished your sentences then we could respond in an intelligent manner. Apparently you seem to fancy yourself as a sort of football expert. If you have something to say please say it. I have been following the Bills since 1968. When I lived in the area I went to most of the games. When I went to UB we went every Sunday. Back then the Bills sucked , much like they do now. I am only trying to make a point that we need to explore all options. The fact that I coach football and played a lot of football,of course makes me think that I'm an expert like you. I'm sure you'll have a very nice return post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Hey Faustus, it might be better if you finished your sentences then we could respond in an intelligent manner. Apparently you seem to fancy yourself as a sort of football expert. If you have something to say please say it. I have been following the Bills since 1968. When I lived in the area I went to most of the games. When I went to UB we went every Sunday. Back then the Bills sucked , much like they do now. I am only trying to make a point that we need to explore all options. The fact that I coach football and played a lot of football,of course makes me think that I'm an expert like you. I'm sure you'll have a very nice return post. 593761[/snapback] ROOKIE FIGHT!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 ROOKIE FIGHT!!!!!!! 593781[/snapback] my money is on millstone... any takers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 my money is on millstone... any takers? 593818[/snapback] You're on! Faustus has come pretty strong early. I like the cut of his jib. What's the bet? No shots at morons for a week? Think of something interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Good idea. I'm one of the few people who have suggested this in the past. Mike Williams is a dominant force when he engages people -- unfortunatley, people can run around him. If he were a DT, it'd actually be the opponent's JOB to engage with him. He'd dominate, imo. Bill Belichick switches players from offense to defense and vice versa ALL THE TIME with success. Unfortunately, we will never have a coach smart enough or creative enough to try the same. I'll say this. Mike Williams will be a better DT than Haloti Ngata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Hey Faustus, it might be better if you finished your sentences then we could respond in an intelligent manner. Apparently you seem to fancy yourself as a sort of football expert. If you have something to say please say it. I have been following the Bills since 1968. When I lived in the area I went to most of the games. When I went to UB we went every Sunday. Back then the Bills sucked , much like they do now. I am only trying to make a point that we need to explore all options. The fact that I coach football and played a lot of football,of course makes me think that I'm an expert like you. I'm sure you'll have a very nice return post. 593761[/snapback] I do so apologize for not finishing my senteces, I was assuming the end was clear. For the love of god...I can't believe you are comparing high school football to NFL! More? There is a huge difference between sticking a D-lineman on the Oline for a goalline play and putting MW in at NT permanatley. Those Dlineman are told to go forward as hard as you can. That's it. There are no adjustments. No reads. NO talent! Just "GO FORWARD". You seem to be of the opinion that a NT does nothing but stand there. Take up space. If that were the case, there would be hundred good NT in the league! All you would have to do is get a big guy. Done! This isn't high school, college, or the new and improved version of Madden. If the Bills want a DT that will help stop the run, improve the LB's ability to move around, and make this defense scary again, they better not try to stick a square peg into a round hole. They need to go out and find a DT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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