mattypro89 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 for next year the real key is gonna be the lines. both on offense and defense. weve got losman, good arm and a real good young talent. weve also got willis. when he said he was one of the best backs in the league he may have been right. but with this crap of an o-line to block for him we couldnt get anything done. we saw his explosivness late in the season when henry got hurt last year or before that can't remember. plus weve got lee evans, rosco parish, and josh reed. all three are stong players that can make plays for JP. the key to next years success is picking up a couple free agent linemen and LETTING JP PLAY! holcom just doesnt have the arm to be a starter. this was really apparent when he threw 5 interceptions against the jets. he is a true back up. playing him as a starter to "try to win now" was a mistake that set the team back another year. doh.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbfalcon80 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 ala, last 4 months of posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 even with a good line, JP would be average at best IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerstm Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 even with a good line, JP would be average at best IMO 570170[/snapback] I'd like to see him behind a good line before I make my judgement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Hey Johnny Two Posts, I have a bulletin for ya: Nobody knows if JP is going to be the next Jake Plummer or the next Ryan Leaf. You don't know what he needs. If anyone knows what he needs, it's Sam Wyche, and apparently Sam doesn't know if he'll be the next Jake Plummer or the next Ryan Leaf. As an armchair GM, you have some work to do. FWIW, I think Jake Plummer's level is JP's ceiling. If I had to bet, I'd say that's the best he can be. Which is good enough to win, mind you. But the younger crowd among us who are so geeked about JP and think he's the next Elway with the proper support system...please. Let's see him complete HALF of his attempts before we ascribe to the kid anything resembling honors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Change "JP" to "Drew" and you'd have the last three years of posts right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Terrell Davis said it best tonight on the NFL Network....he said the Championship level QB's can make plays when breakdowns happen....because breakdowns ALWAYS happen in the NFL even on the best of clubs. As for JP, he has such a long way to go it's scary. Other than some set rollouts, he has not shown me that he can make any plays when the line breaks down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Terrell Davis said it best tonight on the NFL Network....he said the Championship level QB's can make plays when breakdowns happen....because breakdowns ALWAYS happen in the NFL even on the best of clubs. As for JP, he has such a long way to go it's scary. Other than some set rollouts, he has not shown me that he can make any plays when the line breaks down. 570243[/snapback] well, that is a tad off the mark. If anything, it is the complete opposite. JP has struggled while in the pocket, but has made plays on the run with his arm and his feet nearly every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 for next year the real key is gonna be the lines. both on offense and defense. weve got losman, good arm and a real good young talent. weve also got willis. when he said he was one of the best backs in the league he may have been right. but with this crap of an o-line to block for him we couldnt get anything done. we saw his explosivness late in the season when henry got hurt last year or before that can't remember. plus weve got lee evans, rosco parish, and josh reed. all three are stong players that can make plays for JP. the key to next years success is picking up a couple free agent linemen and LETTING JP PLAY! holcom just doesnt have the arm to be a starter. this was really apparent when he threw 5 interceptions against the jets. he is a true back up. playing him as a starter to "try to win now" was a mistake that set the team back another year. doh.gif 570145[/snapback] Welcome to the forum, matty! It looks like a good draft for OL's this April - hopefully they will pick up some decent talent to bring into camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypro89 Posted January 17, 2006 Author Share Posted January 17, 2006 i see your sceptics point. he hasnt yet shown many glimpses of greatness by a long shot. But look at what happened to manning in the first quarter against the steelers. no line and he completed barely more than half his passes. so dont throw him out just yet. give him a descent line this year, let him play the entire time, and see what happens. its not like weve got anything to lose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Let's face it. If a QB can't throw for 400 yards and 4 TD's every game, and be the Super Bowl MVP in his first year as a starter, then he will never amount to anything. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risin Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Terrell Davis said it best tonight on the NFL Network....he said the Championship level QB's can make plays when breakdowns happen....because breakdowns ALWAYS happen in the NFL even on the best of clubs. As for JP, he has such a long way to go it's scary. Other than some set rollouts, he has not shown me that he can make any plays when the line breaks down. 570243[/snapback] TD pass Josh Reed dropped versus San Diego ring a bell? Keep on pretending you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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