eSJayDee Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Just finished rEWATCHING THE GAME, & I recall wondering this at the time. There was 30 seconds left, Moorman was going to be punting from about his 10 & we were up by 6. Why not take the intentional safety? We'd gain about 10 yards, allow Moorman to not rush his kick & eliminate any chance of a block or other mess up. Additionally, we could have burned a few extra seconds off the clock. (I assume on the ensuing free kick, the clock wouldn't start until Mia fielded the kick so the extra time expended would be minimal as you'd lose the ~5 seconds of hangtime.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 10 yards isn't worth the risk of losing the ball running back into your endzone and perhaps giving up a touchdown. Plus, 6 points is a much better margin than 4. If they scored the touchdown, there is always a chance they miss the extra point. Bottom line, if MM takes an intentional saftey, and we lose, he gets fired. If he did what he did, and we lose, he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Just finished rEWATCHING THE GAME, & I recall wondering this at the time.There was 30 seconds left, Moorman was going to be punting from about his 10 & we were up by 6. Why not take the intentional safety? We'd gain about 10 yards, allow Moorman to not rush his kick & eliminate any chance of a block or other mess up. Additionally, we could have burned a few extra seconds off the clock. (I assume on the ensuing free kick, the clock wouldn't start until Mia fielded the kick so the extra time expended would be minimal as you'd lose the ~5 seconds of hangtime.) 474120[/snapback] A guy at our Backers club (Ramius' buddy, Erik Z) turned to me and said that's exactly what we should do as Moorman went back to punt. It would have made great sense. I think Brian could have run around back there and burned some time, but maybe they were afraid of a strip and fumble for a TD? Of course, if that would have happened, TSW would have gone into total melt down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 MM answered that question on his Radio show. He said that would have been the call if they were backed up another 8 to 10 yards or so from where they were at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-dog Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Actually we were talking about that scenario at the game Sunday. It was a real possibility and I thought they were gonna do that. With the Bills luck though Moorman would have fell down or had been tackled before getting out of the back of the endzone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 I can see it now. Moorman fields the ball at the 10 and then has to turn around and run toward the endzone from a dead stop. One of the miamuh DB's on the puntrush, already sprinting in that direction, tracks him down and tackles him at the 5 where the phishes take possession with plenty of time for 4 cracks at the endzone. You're better off taking safeties inside your own 10. When you're all the way out at the 20 the risk just isn't worth the reward. Cya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 I can see it now.Moorman fields the ball at the 10 and then has to turn around and run toward the endzone from a dead stop. One of the miamuh DB's on the puntrush, already sprinting in that direction, tracks him down and tackles him at the 5 where the phishes take possession with plenty of time for 4 cracks at the endzone. You're better off taking safeties inside your own 10. When you're all the way out at the 20 the risk just isn't worth the reward. Cya 474134[/snapback] Exactly. If he tried that play and it failed....I think the people at the Ralph would have murdered him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerstm Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 10 yards isn't worth the risk of losing the ball running back into your endzone and perhaps giving up a touchdown. Plus, 6 points is a much better margin than 4. If they scored the touchdown, there is always a chance they miss the extra point. Bottom line, if MM takes an intentional saftey, and we lose, he gets fired. If he did what he did, and we lose, he doesn't. 474124[/snapback] fickle fans! MM can't win either way eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Actually we were talking about that scenario at the game Sunday. It was a real possibility and I thought they were gonna do that.With the Bills luck though Moorman would have fell down or had been tackled before getting out of the back of the endzone. 474130[/snapback] Uh, if he's tackled IN the endzone, it's still a safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 A guy at our Backers club (Ramius' buddy, Erik Z) turned to me and said that's exactly what we should do as Moorman went back to punt. It would have made great sense. I think Brian could have run around back there and burned some time, but maybe they were afraid of a strip and fumble for a TD? Of course, if that would have happened, TSW would have gone into total melt down. 474125[/snapback] Zimmy's usually right on a lot of football topics (and we tend to agree...you know, the great mind thingy ) but i disagree with him here. Up by 6, as someone stated, they still hafta make the XP, which seems to no longer be a given. Also, as others mentioned, we were too far out ouf the endzone. The onyl way i'd consider the intentional safety was if moorman was standing around our goalline and punting from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-dog Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Uh, if he's tackled IN the endzone, it's still a safety. 474201[/snapback] Really. What if he didn't make it and gets tackled at the 5yd. line ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Really. What if he didn't make it and gets tackled at the 5yd. line ? 474213[/snapback] Highly unlikely, given Mooreman is a former collegiate sprinter and probably the fastest player on the field the majority of the times he's out there. What if your head was as big as your front door? Would it still be so snug in your posterior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-dog Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 LOL. That was good. Yes highly unlikely but still the reason MM chose to punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 LOL. That was good. Yes highly unlikely but still the reason MM chose to punt. 474220[/snapback] I hate "what if" questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 I hate "what if" questions. 474223[/snapback] You shouldn't hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 You shouldn't hate. 474229[/snapback] It's in the DNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Highly unlikely, given Mooreman is a former collegiate sprinter and probably the fastest player on the field the majority of the times he's out there. Maybe unlikely, maybe not. The phins were likely to bring a heavy rush and have somebody coming free while Moorman's at the distinct disadvantage of starting his backwards run from a standstill. By the time he fields the ball, turns around and gets moving there's a good chance he'd already have somebody breathing down his neck. And just as good a chance that the guy gets to him before Moorman gets up to speed. Even if it had worked, I'd probably still have eaten my television and got my wife all pissed off at me. That there is enough to have made it the wrong call.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Maybe unlikely, maybe not. The phins were likely to bring a heavy rush and have somebody coming free while Moorman's at the distinct disadvantage of starting his backwards run from a standstill.By the time he fields the ball, turns around and gets moving there's a good chance he'd already have somebody breathing down his neck. And just as good a chance that the guy gets to him before Moorman gets up to speed. Even if it had worked, I'd probably still have eaten my television and got my wife all pissed off at me. That there is enough to have made it the wrong call.... 474235[/snapback] I wasn't arguing the validity of it. I also think we block it different because there's no reason to release down the field for a tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 I don't remember exactly what yardline they were on, but I think the "what if they miss the XP" stuff is kinda dumb. A 6 pt lead is the absolute best possible margin for an intentional safety in the final minute and it's not even close. Think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawnboy1977 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Just finished rEWATCHING THE GAME, & I recall wondering this at the time.There was 30 seconds left, Moorman was going to be punting from about his 10 & we were up by 6. Why not take the intentional safety? We'd gain about 10 yards, allow Moorman to not rush his kick & eliminate any chance of a block or other mess up. Additionally, we could have burned a few extra seconds off the clock. (I assume on the ensuing free kick, the clock wouldn't start until Mia fielded the kick so the extra time expended would be minimal as you'd lose the ~5 seconds of hangtime.) 474120[/snapback] Here's my question, do you always re-watch Bills games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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