Kelly the Dog Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Carson Palmer went to USC. JPL went to Tulane. Big difference. Plus, comparing JPL to Palmer is like comparing Canada's military to America's military. 454495[/snapback] Losman had a full scholarship to UCLA and could have played there if he wished. He also had his pick between Miami and Tulane and chose Tulane. After his junior year he was rated by the National Scouting Combine as the top quarterback prospect in the nation, ahead of Manning and Rivers and Rothlisberger. Because of a mostly crappy team, his senior year was erratic and scouts weren't sure if he could be a drop back passer in the NFL because it was like playing sandlot. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 This team won't make the playoffs this year, mostly because of the decision to go with a "rookie" QB. When we dumped Bledsoe I was pissed because even though I didn't think Drew was that great of a QB, this team could have made a run with him at the helm. My entire thinking was based on my belief that JP isn't ready to lead this team now or in the near future. I, among many, were told constantly that I don't know my football and that TD knows best. During the off-season, I warmed up to this decision as I bought into the whole "this is better for the team argument." However, now I'm off that bandwagon. I'm not drinking the TD Kool-Aid anymore. I might not being making hundreds of thousands of dollars to run a football team but I can see a bad decision when I see one. JP is years away. I watched at RWS today as this kid stared down an open receiver only to throw to one that was covered or even double-covered. He's not good enough for this team and he won't be for a while. Drew's no spring chicken but I guarantee he would have done better. There is NO way we'll make the playoffs this year. TD has made a lot of good decisions as GM but just as many bad ones. When we don't make the playoffs this year, his ass should be sent packing. 453948[/snapback] We won't make the playoffs till we get a line that plays ALOT better! And a damned DT who stop the run some of the time. I have no idea why the LB's this year are playing out of place more than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 "Oh no! We suck again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 It doesnt matter if you put Joe Montana, or an ice cream cone behind our offensive line....same results 453958[/snapback] With Brady OR Montana in there we are likely 3-0 and for sure 2-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat-boy Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Todd Marinovich went to USC. Rob Johnson went to USC. Your comparisons aren't making any more sense than the next guy's. 454502[/snapback] Of course his comparisons don't make any sense. However they do ring the true USA Patriotic Bell, i.e, "Because we won a few wars many years ago, are a "free country", our citizens have a lot of money per capita, and we have the military capability to beat the stevestojan out of of the world (and that therefore we should be venerated, if not worshipped), we're better than all the other countries on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I doubt it...It is hard for Ralph to fire a GM who puts together a team that sells out the stadium. If the losing leads to 3/4 filled stadium, I agree. But as long as the Bills are making money, I doubt you will see a change. 454017[/snapback] you mean like the other Buffalo GM? Mediocre results with excellent job security? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTS Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 Todd Marinovich went to USC. Rob Johnson went to USC. Your comparisons aren't making any more sense than the next guy's. 454502[/snapback] For one JP was great at Tulane but Leinhart is God at USC but that's not the point I was trying to make. Great QBs -- and most players for the most part -- that come out of big time, NFL-like programs such as Miami, USC, etc have an easier time adjusting the the NFL game. I guess that's the point I was trying to make and I didn't explain it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTS Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 Losman had a full scholarship to UCLA and could have played there if he wished. He also had his pick between Miami and Tulane and chose Tulane. After his junior year he was rated by the National Scouting Combine as the top quarterback prospect in the nation, ahead of Manning and Rivers and Rothlisberger. Because of a mostly crappy team, his senior year was erratic and scouts weren't sure if he could be a drop back passer in the NFL because it was like playing sandlot. Try again. 454507[/snapback] Rothlisberger carried Miami of Ohio. Why didn't JPL do that same at Tulane? I watch college football more than the average guy and follow the players very closely. That draft season, I watched Big Ben play a few times and and said time and again that he's by far the best QB in that draft, better than Manning and Rivers. JPL wasn't even on my list, probably because their whole team sucked. Either way, Bills took a huge gamble and right now we're holding a 10 and a deuce with the dealer showing a face card. I don't like our odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marck Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Mr. Clutch, I am glad you are off the bandwagon. People like you aren't wanted anyways. There's not enough room for the quality fans anyways. The team will get better and JP will progress as the season goes on. This situation is very similar to the one last year in Cincinnati. Now look where Carson Palmer and the Bengals are. The Bills were a peripheral playoff tm this year with Bledsoe or with JP. If they do make the playoffs they are one and done anyways. If we had kept Drew, is a first round playoff loss make your entire year and make you so happy? Well it does nothing for me, I would rather have my QB of the future develop and be ready to go by midseason, then we can look forward to a long run of years in the playoffs. Yes, this team does have so gaps especially on the offensive line and the ability to stop the run on defense. But no matter I am a Bills fan and am proud to say so. Shame, you can't say the same thing. This team won't make the playoffs this year, mostly because of the decision to go with a "rookie" QB. When we dumped Bledsoe I was pissed because even though I didn't think Drew was that great of a QB, this team could have made a run with him at the helm. My entire thinking was based on my belief that JP isn't ready to lead this team now or in the near future. I, among many, were told constantly that I don't know my football and that TD knows best. During the off-season, I warmed up to this decision as I bought into the whole "this is better for the team argument." However, now I'm off that bandwagon. I'm not drinking the TD Kool-Aid anymore. I might not being making hundreds of thousands of dollars to run a football team but I can see a bad decision when I see one. JP is years away. I watched at RWS today as this kid stared down an open receiver only to throw to one that was covered or even double-covered. He's not good enough for this team and he won't be for a while. Drew's no spring chicken but I guarantee he would have done better. There is NO way we'll make the playoffs this year. TD has made a lot of good decisions as GM but just as many bad ones. When we don't make the playoffs this year, his ass should be sent packing. 453948[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I'm packing my crap up and moving to New England. 454500[/snapback] Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. Fairweather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTS Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. Fairweather. 454747[/snapback] Fairweather, bandwagon jumper ... bring on all the cliches. If the team sucks, the team sucks. I don't want to support a team that doesn't follow through on it's end of the bargain. Just because you and most Buffalo fans are accustomed to losing doesn't mean I have too be. I spend way too much time, emotion and money on Buffalo sports only to have them make me miserable. So how much longer do we have to wait? This city is a losing city and people like you are just used to that disappointment. I will never be, it's not in me. It's one thing to support the team and another to support the buffons that are running it. TD had his chance and it's over. Get his ass out of town. We got an O-line that couldn't block a fat girl, a QB that can't utilized some of the best WRs in the league, an extremely overrated defense that can't stop the run and that will be without the heart and soul for the rest of the season, and a coaching staff that doesn't realize that #21 is their meal ticket. This team is going downhill fast, I can only image what's going on in the lockerroom. The finger pointing is sure to have started and it's only going to get worst from here. This is all coming from someone who used to always be optimistic. I'm optimistic no more. But "we'll always have next year" right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Fairweather, bandwagon jumper ... bring on all the cliches. If the team sucks, the team sucks. I don't want to support a team that doesn't follow through on it's end of the bargain. Just because you and most Buffalo fans are accustomed to losing doesn't mean I have too be. I spend way too much time, emotion and money on Buffalo sports only to have them make me miserable. So how much longer do we have to wait? This city is a losing city and people like you are just used to that disappointment. I will never be, it's not in me. It's one thing to support the team and another to support the buffons that are running it. TD had his chance and it's over. Get his ass out of town. We got an O-line that couldn't block a fat girl, a QB that can't utilized some of the best WRs in the league, and a coaching staff that doesn't realize that #21 is their meal ticket. This team is going downhill fast, I can only image what's going on in the lockerroom. The finger pointing is sure to have started and it's only going to get worst from here. This is all coming from someone who used to always be optimistic. I'm optimistic no more. But "we'll always have next year" right? 454910[/snapback] So what's your plan? Perpetual cycles of firings following by inevitable rebuildings? That's what you're espousing, Mr. "Clutch". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTS Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 So what's your plan? Perpetual cycles of firings following by inevitable rebuildings? That's what you're espousing, Mr. "Clutch". 454915[/snapback] What's your plan? Stay with TD and his rebuilding plan which is lasting over five years now? If I had the effort in me, I'd go find his quotes from his first season in Buffalo where he stated we'd be a playoff contender in his second season and a Super Bowl contender the following year. TD is like the 27-year-old in college still looking for his degree. He comes close enough to get a taste of graduation but fails miserably every time. I hope I eat my words but history has a funny tendency to repeat itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Fairweather, bandwagon jumper ... bring on all the cliches. If the team sucks, the team sucks. I don't want to support a team that doesn't follow through on it's end of the bargain. Just because you and most Buffalo fans are accustomed to losing doesn't mean I have too be. I spend way too much time, emotion and money on Buffalo sports only to have them make me miserable. So how much longer do we have to wait? This city is a losing city and people like you are just used to that disappointment. I will never be, it's not in me. It's one thing to support the team and another to support the buffons that are running it. TD had his chance and it's over. Get his ass out of town. We got an O-line that couldn't block a fat girl, a QB that can't utilized some of the best WRs in the league, an extremely overrated defense that can't stop the run and that will be without the heart and soul for the rest of the season, and a coaching staff that doesn't realize that #21 is their meal ticket. This team is going downhill fast, I can only image what's going on in the lockerroom. The finger pointing is sure to have started and it's only going to get worst from here. This is all coming from someone who used to always be optimistic. I'm optimistic no more. But "we'll always have next year" right? 454910[/snapback] Adios, Mr. Clutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTS Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 Adios 454936[/snapback] Whoa ... what's that World Champions stuff on the top of their website. I wonder how that must feel seeing we'll never get that chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Whoa ... what's that World Champions stuff on the top of their website. I wonder how that must feel seeing we'll never get that chance. 454946[/snapback] If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. See you later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Adios 454936[/snapback] I hope that in real life, you are more loyal than this. Take care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Whoa ... what's that World Champions stuff on the top of their website. I wonder how that must feel seeing we'll never get that chance. 454946[/snapback] Ask T-Bone how easy it is to follow the Paytoilets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I hope that in real life, you are more loyal than this. Take care. 454958[/snapback] Bill, that was my suggestion to Mr. Clutch. You know from the rest of my posts I am intensely loyal to the Bills. I care about them more than any other team in all of sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTS Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 Bill, that was my suggestion to Mr. Clutch. You know from the rest of my posts I am intensely loyal to the Bills. I care about them more than any other team in all of sports. 454963[/snapback] Unlike myself, your loyalty is blinding you from the truth. This team isn't good enough to win and its leader doesn't deserve any loyalty. He had his chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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