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21 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Allen was running around and backwards

 

This is not hard to figure out.

 

Receivers were blanketed so his only choice was to scramble and try to buy time for them to get free from their defender.

 

The choice was try to buy time and make a play, or throw it away.

 

Practically speaking, the choice was between punting on 4th and 7 and 4th and 17.

 

Nothing rookie about it.

 

19 hours ago, transient said:

Allen knows what this team is and isn’t. It isn’t talented. Does it matter if it’s 4 and 6 or 4 and 26 when you can’t move the ball. 

 

Bingo.

 

How do others not see this?

Posted
18 hours ago, zow2 said:

 

Amazing how Tom Brady just threw the ball directly into the ground 5 feet in front of him, and avoided being clobbered or running around like a keystone cop. 

 

1) Brady did that because he LITERALLY could not run. He was slow as molasses. Throwing the ball at the ground was his ONLY option.

 

2) Brady knew the very next play he would have a receiver running wide freaking open. Allen does not have that luxury.

 

It is absolutely stupifying how many of you want to take away what makes Allen special (his off script ability) in favor of turning him into a dink and dunk robot. 

Posted
19 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:


Old habits die hard.  I’ve never played professional football, but I’ve got to think instincts take over in the moment which obviously weren’t working against that D Line.  Not to mention our O Line looked like a turnstile for most of the night.

 

Yea it was Wyoming Josh's worst trait. He has mainly overcome it in the NFL which is super impressive but every now and again when his OL collapses as it did Thursday he reverts to type, holds it too long running around recklessly in the backfield trying to make something happen. To be clear though it was a symptom of the Bills failure on Thursday not the cause.

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20 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea it was Wyoming Josh's worst trait. He has mainly overcome it in the NFL which is super impressive but every now and again when his OL collapses as it did Thursday he reverts to type, holds it too long running around recklessly in the backfield trying to make something happen. To be clear though it was a symptom of the Bills failure on Thursday not the cause.


Our O Line looked like they were sleepwalking out there

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Posted (edited)
19 hours ago, transient said:

Yes and no. We’re 11 games into this season and Allen knows what this team is and isn’t. It isn’t talented. It isn’t a team that can make up a deficit. Does it matter if it’s 4 and 6 or 4 and 26 when you can’t move the ball. Right or wrong, he probably felt the only chance the Bills had was a superhuman busted play or 2. ####, after watching the Acho piece, I wouldn’t have blamed Allen if he went full on Techmo bowl and turned around and sprinted backwards 20 yards before turning back around for a desperation heave every play. 

This. As Allen sits on the sideline and watches a putrid Texan offense bully the Bills D going up and down the field the desperation starts to creep in.  Allen understands that he has to make superman plays to win the game.  What you are seeing with Allen taking more sacks this year has little to do with Allen regressing or his QB coach failing and a lot to do with the offensive scheme and lack of quality play makers on the field (Kincaid is a quality play maker who is often not on the field).

 

*  The O line has regressed in pass protection.  This is obvious to me.

 

*  The broken play is the only way the Bills can generate big play offense this season so Allen will do anything, even the wrong thing, to keep the play alive.  

 

*  The lack of WR separation is forcing Allen to hold on to the ball.

 

*  Teams have figured out and adjusted to Brady's offense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted
23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea it was Wyoming Josh's worst trait. He has mainly overcome it in the NFL which is super impressive but every now and again when his OL collapses as it did Thursday he reverts to type, holds it too long running around recklessly in the backfield trying to make something happen. To be clear though it was a symptom of the Bills failure on Thursday not the cause.

And in the NFL it often works for Allen like a week earlier with his deep TD pass to Savers.  The Bills will never completely get this out of Allen,  What they should do is construct an offensive roster and scheme that best utilizes this skill.  Instead they have built an offense that encourages Allen to do this out of frustration when things aren't going well.  

 

IMO everyone is nibbling around the edges of the problem with jabs at what Allen could do better when the problem is simple:  the Bills have never tried to build an offense around Allen that matches his style of play and provides him with the most complimentary talent possible under the CAP.  They have a defensive minded HC who didn't get along with the one above average OC they had and has tried to build a team that seems counter intuitive to what one would do with a guy like Allen at QB,

 

 

 

 

 

 

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