IYKYK Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said: if he's a pedophile and acting president, don't you think proving that is important? Did you care when biden was in office? Your motives are transparent. The previous four years you didn’t care. But know you do? Highly suspicious. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Should I also be ranting about Hillary allegedly having an affair with Vince Foster or Dem-beloved Michael Wolff allegedly trying to get Epstein to implicate Trump? no, because she was never president and neither of these alleged affairs (I haven't heard either but I did hear the lesbian rumor) are illegal or nearly as morally reprehensible as pedophilia.
IYKYK Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, teef said: you need to roll it back and calm down. i don't want them out to nail trump, and if you took the time to read what i said, i think it's pretty obvious. and no...i don't think it's the only reason leftists want it released. there are people in both political parties that want it out. it was the systematic raping of girls, and who ever is involved should pay. so...and this is a question for @B-Man who probably doesn't have the courage to answer, don't you think the way trump handled it was wildly suspect? didn't it raise an eyebrow for you just a bit? I am calm. I’m not the one who suddenly wants the files released based on who’s in office. Like you are. The ret of your diatribe is just word salad.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, IYKYK said: Did you care when biden was in office? Your motives are transparent. The previous four years you didn’t care. But know you do? Highly suspicious. care about what? if Biden was a pedophile, there would have been congressional investigations and likely similar tactics from his admin to hide evidence. there weren't. Edited 1 hour ago by Joe Ferguson forever
SCBills Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: no, because she was never president and neither of these alleged affairs (I haven't heard either but I did hear the lesbian rumor) are illegal or nearly as morally reprehensible as pedophilia. Ahh yes, Vince Foster who notably committed “suicide”. Epstein files rumor that he had an affair with Hillary Clinton prior. “Nothing to see here! Only show me flimsy evidence Trump is a pedo that I can get high off of for a few minutes before it’s debunked!”
teef Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, IYKYK said: I am calm. I’m not the one who suddenly wants the files released based on who’s in office. Like you are. The ret of your diatribe is just word salad. no...you are someone that definitely can't handle your emotions. you think people just want this out now? there have been countless documentaries on the subject, news stories, etc. when your acting president that proclaims he's going to release the files and then completely does a 180, doesn't that make you think something is up? i asked you and you called it word salad. if you can't have a reasonable conversation, don't ***** bother me.
B-Man Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, teef said: so...and this is a question for @B-Man who probably doesn't have the courage to answer, don't you think the way trump handled it was wildly suspect? didn't it raise an eyebrow for you just a bit? No. Handling something poorly does not make it suspect. Unless you are consumed with so much bias for President Trump that you automatically assume the worst. I see no (brave) comments regarding the way the democrats tried (and failed) to create a lie about our President by releasing these three e-mails But you be you. Edited 1 hour ago by B-Man 1
wnyguy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, teef said: no...you are someone that definitely can't handle your emotions. you think people just want this out now? there have been countless documentaries on the subject, news stories, etc. when your acting president that proclaims he's going to release the files and then completely does a 180, doesn't that make you think something is up? i asked you and you called it word salad. if you can't have a reasonable conversation, don't ***** bother me. I think something is up for sure and it makes you wonder why Trump is fighting the release of these files. I have my suspicions on it but I want all the files, videos, and transcripts released to the public so all those involved are exposed. 1
teef Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, B-Man said: No. Handling something poorly does not make it suspect. Unless you are consumed with so much bias for President Trump that you automatically assume the worst. I see no (brave) comments regarding the way the democrats tried (and failed) to create a lie about our President by releasing these three e-mails But you be you. No. Handling something poorly does not make it suspect. Unless you are consumed with so much bias for President Trump that you automatically assume the worst. I see no (brave) comments regarding the way the democrats tried (and failed) to create a lie about our President by releasing these three e-mails But you be you. you're really so blind that you don't see it as suspect? and explain what i've assumed. i don't think you've read a single word in this thread. so trump calling people who want the files out "losers" is nothing? maxwell being moved after a meeting to new prison is a nothing? you have to be willfully ignorant to call this nothing. Edited 1 hour ago by teef 1
B-Man Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: care about what? The release of the files for the victim's sake.. Not just to "Get Trump" That's what. , . Edited 1 hour ago by B-Man
teef Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, wnyguy said: I think something is up for sure and it makes you wonder why Trump is fighting the release of these files. I have my suspicions on it but I want all the files, videos, and transcripts released to the public so all those involved are exposed. exactly. i feel the same way. as i said before, i don't at this time think trump was sleeping with underage girls. there's numerous people on both sides that could fall because of this. in terms of trump, my guess is that he's maybe trying to protect some people, or possibly there's a business/social dealing that could make him look bad in public opinion. who knows, but this isn't just a political issue.
wnyguy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, teef said: exactly. i feel the same way. as i said before, i don't at this time think trump was sleeping with underage girls. there's numerous people on both sides that could fall because of this. in terms of trump, my guess is that he's maybe trying to protect some people, or possibly there's a business/social dealing that could make him look bad in public opinion. who knows, but this isn't just a political issue. I agree that he may be protecting someone or even someones and it very likely means he was told to stand down on this issue.
teef Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, wnyguy said: I agree that he may be protecting someone or even someones and it very likely means he was told to stand down on this issue. very likely. it was just too extreme of a pivot. 2 1
SCBills Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, wnyguy said: I agree that he may be protecting someone or even someones and it very likely means he was told to stand down on this issue. This is where I’m at also. R’s and Dems playing chicken with each other knowing the other side won’t actually release it and they can gain political points in pointing that out. R’s did this under Biden. Now Dems doing it under Trump. In fairness, Trump brought this on himself. I don’t believe he’s done anything criminal in this due to the fact it would have come out under Biden. But I’m sure his name pops up, as we’ve seen, and when you’re now the one blocking it, Dems can make headway in releasing bits and pieces that tangentially reference him. R’s can point out the manipulation and lies, but D’s still flood the zone with this. Trump should just say it F it and release everything. My belief is he can’t…. Or more explicitly stated, better not. Edited 1 hour ago by SCBills 3
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 12 minutes ago, B-Man said: The release of the files for the victim's sake.. Not just to "Get Trump" That's what. , . I agree it should be for the victim's sake but also for the rule of law. That includes finding and bringing to justice any illegally involved in the pedo ring with no exceptions. So if this leads to trump's participation, what would you see as far as justice for the victims?
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, teef said: very likely. it was just too extreme of a pivot. The biggie question imo is why anything involving Epstein was hidden/redacted/confidential to begin with, outside of the victims involved. As for Trump, the flip side of the argument is why he would demand release of the files if he knew he was in them. Some people are just above the law.
wnyguy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, SCBills said: This is where I’m at also. R’s and Dems playing chicken with each other knowing the other side won’t actually release it and they can gain political points in pointing that out. R’s did this under Biden. Now Dems doing it under Trump. In fairness, Trump brought this on himself. I don’t believe he’s done anything criminal in this due to the fact it would have come out under Biden. But I’m sure his name pops up, as we’ve seen, and when you’re now the one blocking it, Dems can make headway in releasing bits and pieces that tangentially reference him. R’s can point out the manipulation and lies, but D’s still flood the zone with this. Trump should just say it F it and release everything. My belief is he can’t…. Or more explicitly stated, better not. And if he was told he "better not" you know the threat has to be massive, to make Trump do a 180 on this, with the ego this guy has, it has to be a pretty viable threat IMO.( But if the ones responsible are keeping tabs on this I'm just repeating what Homelander told me.) Edited 1 hour ago by wnyguy 1
muppy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 20 minutes ago, teef said: very likely. it was just too extreme of a pivot. Teef I am admittedly not the sharpest knife in the PPP drawer. But what you wrote here rings true and I'll tell you why. you are completely right. In simple terms. No Baloney If Naranja did run on a platform saying the Epstein files need to be released. The Pivot? . Now saying they need not be released ....a 180 turn away. such a hoax nothing burger nothing to see here. so Many excuses why he doesn't want them released. Inclussing why not before under Biden. It has been said over and over and I'll add to the chorus. Lets the chips fall as they may either side. Release the files You know Republicans are divided on this issue when Marjorie Taylor Greene leads the voice to release them. Common sense in this country is Not common enough. I don't know if he is a pedo. what is he SO afraid of revealing? suck it up buttercup Edited 1 hour ago by muppy 1 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Guys, the people who have power in this country operate in the shadows. Goes way beyond whose in the white house. 3
muppy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: The biggie question imo is why anything involving Epstein was hidden/redacted/confidential to begin with, outside of the victims involved. As for Trump, the flip side of the argument is why he would demand release of the files if he knew he was in them. Some people are just above the law. while I know the President has such immunity the thought of it protecting someone involved in this makes me sick to my stomach. for real.
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