Bills workout DE's Jonathan and Toohill - cut Ciarlo and Wilkerson from PS

[jkeerie]

8 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Don't worry...Von Miller will get his release from Washington and he'll return to Buffalo. Book it!!

But after yesterday, Vets have to now clear waivers.  They just can't sign wherever they want until they do.

[Green Lightning]

Once again we're one special play from one special player away from a championship. Beane makes sure we are good enough to be in the hunt every year, but incapable of getting us over the top, as we waste yet another year of a generational talent at QB. So we save draft capital for another 3rd round undersized LB or another midling receiver. If we fall short again this year, is it not time to say McBeane isn't the leadership we need to finally win this damn thing before our unicorn QB is past his

prime?

[Psautcsk]

34 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

Honestly there's a lot worse things that could happen.

I'd be good with it.

[Green Lightning]

14 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Mentioned this in another thread - but the shape we're in after this season definitely was a major factor in being hesitant to move picks for players.

 

As usual, we're in rough shape cap wise. While we could come up with more money, it's still only going to go so far with all we have to do and freeing that space would add to the number of bodies we'd have to replace.

 

We have *TWENTY ONE* players currently on our 53 man roster that we'll have to either re-sign or replace with limited money and just 7 Draft Picks - including 9 starters and key ones like 2/5 of our OL and our best Pass Rusher. The list includes:

 

Unrestricted Free Agents:

 

- DE Joey Bosa

- C Connor McGovern

- G David Edwards

- LB Matt Milano

- DT Daquan Jones

- DE AJ Epenesa

- CB Tre'Davious White

- LB Shaq Thompson 

- FB Reggie Gilliam

- DT Larry Ogunjobi

- WR Elijah Moore

- QB Mitch Trubisky

- CB Cam Lewis

- S Jordan Poyer

- S Damar Hamlin

- S Sam Franklin Jr.

- DT Jordan Phillips

 

Restricted and Exclusive RIghts Free Agents:

 

- G Alec Anderson

- OT Ryan Van Demark

- CB Ja'Marcus Ingram

 

And again, that's not taking into account players that we'll most likely move on from to free up space like Taylor Rapp, Curtis Samuel, and Dawson Knox. The number grows to 23 players currently on our 53 with that.

 

You can say "who cares, let most of those guys walk". But we'd still need to replace them on the 53 with limited cap and just 7 Draft Picks (as we made traded away no one and won't have any comps).

 

All this to say, we weren't in a position to willy nilly trade away Draft Picks or take on large amounts of money in 2026. Which complicated things.

 

It's definitely fair to argue Beane shouldn't have put us in this position to where things were this complicated - but it doesn't change the position we're in.

A lot of truth here. Even if you subtract the players I crossed out above, we'd same about $14,500,000 in cap, but take a big hit on dead money. If we fall short this year again, we're going to need younger, faster, cheaper and better players,  and look deeper into the roster than what you have here. Beane has some pretty bad contracts to deal with. All the while, the clock is ticking on Josh.

[SCBills]

41 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

But after yesterday, Vets have to now clear waivers.  They just can't sign wherever they want until they do.

This is the case but a vet like Von typically makes it known where he wants to go and teams typically honor that. 
 

If he’s granted his release and makes it known he wants to come back to Buffalo, it will happen. 

[stlbills13]

Can someone who knows more about football, tell me how good Mathis is? I know he didn't play a ton but I've actually noticed him (in a good way) on Sunday

[buffaloboyinATL]

18 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:

Can someone who knows more about football, tell me how good Mathis is? I know he didn't play a ton but I've actually noticed him (in a good way) on Sunday

He was impressive at Alabama, and very productive.  Was a second round draft pick of the Commanders, but was hampered by injuries. Has a high ceiling for sure.