Joe Ferguson forever Posted Saturday at 01:32 AM Posted Saturday at 01:32 AM (edited) It’s official. Trump is using poor Americans, many of whom voted for him, as pawns in his budget chess game. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/07/appeals-allows-november-snap-payments-to-continue-for-now-00643495 Same thing with air travelers. He cares nothing about regular Americans. Bondi is scum “Judicial activism at its worst,” she wrote in a post on X slamming McConnell, an Obama appointee. “A single district court in Rhode Island should not be able to seize center stage in the shutdown, seek to upend political negotiations that could produce swift political solutions for SNAP and other programs, and dictate its own preferences for how scarce federal funds should be spent.” Edited Saturday at 01:37 AM by Joe Ferguson forever 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted Saturday at 05:29 PM Posted Saturday at 05:29 PM 15 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: It’s official. Trump is using poor Americans, many of whom voted for him, as pawns in his budget chess game. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/07/appeals-allows-november-snap-payments-to-continue-for-now-00643495 Same thing with air travelers. He cares nothing about regular Americans. Bondi is scum “Judicial activism at its worst,” she wrote in a post on X slamming McConnell, an Obama appointee. “A single district court in Rhode Island should not be able to seize center stage in the shutdown, seek to upend political negotiations that could produce swift political solutions for SNAP and other programs, and dictate its own preferences for how scarce federal funds should be spent.” Every single Republican has voted to send out SNAP and almost every Dem has said no. If you disagree with my fact let me know but please just with facts, not your opinion 2
Niagara Bill Posted yesterday at 04:36 PM Posted yesterday at 04:36 PM So, the ultimate definition of liberal socialist policy is redistribution of wealth. When government taxes and gives the proceeds to other citizens in a manner they deem proper. In Canada it happened with a carbon tax, paid by those who produced carbon or used carbon fuels and was rebated to all citizens, suggesting that the less carbon footprint you left the more you benefited by the rebate. When that occurred, conservatives, and even Trump, screamed Socialism. Trump hated Trudeau for such socialist policies. His supporters on this site screamed about Canadian socialist government. I agreed. Fast forward to Nov 8. Trump says tariffs paid by those business who imported goods, sold them and those citizens that paid more or business made less profit gave him the ability to give $2000 checks to citizens. Those who spent less on tariffs benefit more than those who bought tariffs goods. Sounds like ULTIMATE SOCIALISM to me. The redistribution of wealth. The benevolence of a king. By the way. Socialist Canada has no food stamp programs.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted yesterday at 05:43 PM Posted yesterday at 05:43 PM 59 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: So, the ultimate definition of liberal socialist policy is redistribution of wealth. When government taxes and gives the proceeds to other citizens in a manner they deem proper. In Canada it happened with a carbon tax, paid by those who produced carbon or used carbon fuels and was rebated to all citizens, suggesting that the less carbon footprint you left the more you benefited by the rebate. When that occurred, conservatives, and even Trump, screamed Socialism. Trump hated Trudeau for such socialist policies. His supporters on this site screamed about Canadian socialist government. I agreed. Fast forward to Nov 8. Trump says tariffs paid by those business who imported goods, sold them and those citizens that paid more or business made less profit gave him the ability to give $2000 checks to citizens. Those who spent less on tariffs benefit more than those who bought tariffs goods. Sounds like ULTIMATE SOCIALISM to me. The redistribution of wealth. The benevolence of a king. By the way. Socialist Canada has no food stamp programs. You don’t have many Haitians either. https://www.sfltimes.com/news/haitians-facing-deportation-flee-to-canada-but-are-turned-away#google_vignette “There are limits,” Canada’s Prime Minister Mark Carney told reporters. “We have to be human, but realistic. Canada can’t accept everyone.”
Niagara Bill Posted yesterday at 05:51 PM Posted yesterday at 05:51 PM 6 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: You don’t have many Haitians either. https://www.sfltimes.com/news/haitians-facing-deportation-flee-to-canada-but-are-turned-away#google_vignette “There are limits,” Canada’s Prime Minister Mark Carney told reporters. “We have to be human, but realistic. Canada can’t accept everyone.” What have Haitians got to do with US socialism in the gop. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted yesterday at 06:05 PM Posted yesterday at 06:05 PM 12 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: What have Haitians got to do with US socialism in the gop. You mentioned Canadian carbon tax. I assumed you rejected the Haitians (partly) because of their carbon footprint on the way from their to your country. 1
Niagara Bill Posted yesterday at 06:20 PM Posted yesterday at 06:20 PM 11 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: You mentioned Canadian carbon tax. I assumed you rejected the Haitians (partly) because of their carbon footprint on the way from their to your country. What has that got to do with trump socialism? If carbon tax rebates were socialism, then isn't tariff tax rebates socialism. Socialism by the political party who are trying to Make Anerica Great Again. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 3 hours ago, Niagara Bill said: What has that got to do with trump socialism? If carbon tax rebates were socialism, then isn't tariff tax rebates socialism. Socialism by the political party who are trying to Make Anerica Great Again. I think you’re confused. You specifically mentioned Canada and policies unique to your country several times. Canadian carbon tax. Canadian rebates. How Trump hated Trudeau. Canada and d food stamps. I mentioned Canada and its socialist approach to Haitian refugees. Just like the Canadian people don’t seem to want food stamps, they don’t seem to want Haitians. That’s odd, because Socialist governments would typically embrace immigrants, but maybe they have to be the right kind of immigrant. Anyway, you don’t want to talk about, I can understand. Yes, there are elements of our way of life that involved redistribution of wealth. Taxes. Foreign aid. That sort of thing. 1 2
Homelander Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 26 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Anyway, you don’t want to talk about, I can understand. dead
Niagara Bill Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I think you’re confused. You specifically mentioned Canada and policies unique to your country several times. Canadian carbon tax. Canadian rebates. How Trump hated Trudeau. Canada and d food stamps. I mentioned Canada and its socialist approach to Haitian refugees. Just like the Canadian people don’t seem to want food stamps, they don’t seem to want Haitians. That’s odd, because Socialist governments would typically embrace immigrants, but maybe they have to be the right kind of immigrant. Anyway, you don’t want to talk about, I can understand. Yes, there are elements of our way of life that involved redistribution of wealth. Taxes. Foreign aid. That sort of thing. One if the main reason you and others voted for maga was the hatred of the devils policies of socialism. And now the great leader becomes a socialist and you have no issue with it, You could have continued that with Harris. You maga guys are so phoney...did you vote for policy or just the love for a king. You are finding out your leader is phoney and afraid to admit it. At least I could say Trudeau was the biggest a?? In Canadian history. 1 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said: One if the main reason you and others voted for maga was the hatred of the devils policies of socialism. And now the great leader becomes a socialist and you have no issue with it, You could have continued that with Harris. You maga guys are so phoney...did you vote for policy or just the love for a king. You are finding out your leader is phoney and afraid to admit it. At least I could say Trudeau was the biggest a?? In Canadian history. Oh goodness….you’re spiraling with this talk of devils and kings. Take a breath, secure in the knowledge that after every 936 posts about your neighbor to the south, you come up with a tepid criticism on politics in your own country. In that regard, Trudeau may be the biggest a$$ in Canadian history, but you seem determined to make a run for the title. Godspeed.
Niagara Bill Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 11 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Oh goodness….you’re spiraling with this talk of devils and kings. Take a breath, secure in the knowledge that after every 936 posts about your neighbor to the south, you come up with a tepid criticism on politics in your own country. In that regard, Trudeau may be the biggest a$$ in Canadian history, but you seem determined to make a run for the title. Godspeed. Still afraid to face the Art of secret Socialism. Or is it just the benevolent king. Come on Leh-nerd...I know you have a real mind, just clear your throat and say, I was dupped. I was hood winked.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, Niagara Bill said: Still afraid to face the Art of secret Socialism. Or is it just the benevolent king. Come on Leh-nerd...I know you have a real mind, just clear your throat and say, I was dupped. I was hood winked. I’ve previously pointed out the elements of wealth redistribution in the American system as it exists. That was your original hot button issue. In regards to tax generally, I’m a supporter of progressive tax policy, which by design increases contributions as income increases. It has nothing to do with some silly concept like “fair share”, just a recognition that things must be paid for. I’d sure love the tax rate to be adjusted downwards, and would love to see an overhaul where we had some reason to believe waste and abuse wasn’t a problem, but that’s a different discussion. By applying your theory as outlined here, I would have been for the abolishment of all tax or redistributive programs. That’s silly, as silly say as a Canadian citizen declaring the system the best in the world, while private paying for life-changing or life-saving treatment in a foreign land. Carry on.
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