Capco Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 14 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Agreed. But if teams have absolutely zero fear of it from a multiple standpoint of both Josh not being great at it and no one getting open - things remain the same. They'll continue to crowd the line of scrimmage, key in on Cook, send Safeties, and make life incredibly difficult in the short to intermediate areas. Josh has to work on it. He may never be great at it. But if we can get someone with deep speed and separation, they have to at least respect it. Even if he only hits it once in a while. While I don't think you're wrong about how speed would help open up the short and intermediate areas, I do think intentionally calling those deep routes and taking low-percentage shots with what we already have at WR would also help keep defenses off balance. The Bills need to be aggressive and assertive with these calls. Literally telegraph your intention to attack deep (even in pre-game pressers). Don't ever underestimate how quickly NFL defensive coordinators will start to play conservatively just to stop the threat of the big play. Then combine that with your offensive line and running game prowess, and mix in some play action passes with at least one deep route. Get the defense thinking "gotta defend deep... but wait, also gotta defend the run. Crap, they're running. *runs to LOS* OH NOOOO IT'S PLAY ACTION AND KINCAID IS BEHIND ME IN THE MIDDLE IDK WHAT'S EVEN HAPPENINGGGG!" Quote
Big Turk Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 13 hours ago, Nihilarian said: Click to open in new tab works !) We can't afford his contract right now 2) Dolphins are not trading him even if they do rebuild, him and Achane would remain the centerpieces of their offense, why would you get rid of 2 studs in their prime? Quote
dollars 2 donuts Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago On 10/14/2025 at 8:35 AM, Kirby Jackson said: Tired - The Bills need a number 1 WR. Wired - The Bills need a number 1 and a number 2 WR Some other names that could fill one of the spots Jakobi Meyers, Kendrick Bourne, DJ Moore, JaJuan Jennings Ya know what's weird Kirby, we used to have a really good wide receiver who everyone thought was gassed even though he has 86 receptions in the 15 games he has played since leaving here, which he was cut loose due to the advent of the love and orgasms over "everybody eats" when getting him a competent #2 WR probably would have helped things out tremendously. ...but any-who! 1 Quote
Nihilarian Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Really, all it would take is to have Josh throw a few passes deep, and if he connects with one, it would scare the bejesus out of the defense and get them to start dropping deep and back off the run game. Seems like that would open up the offense even if they are low-percentage pass plays. When was the last time Josh went deep on a pass play, and he normally has time in the pocket to throw deep? We also know that Curtis Samuel can run a 4.31, Moore a 4.35, and Shakir a 4.43. More than enough speed to break away. It's all about how the Buffalo offense is schemed and set up. Josh Allen's average depth of target (ADOT) for the 2025 season is 8.03 yards, which ranks 8th in the NFL. This figure reflects a more underneath passing style compared to previous seasons, with recent game-specific ADOTs varying, such as a low of 3.3 yards in one recent game, according to SumerSports and Herd Mentality Quote
Dick_Cheney Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Really, all it would take is to have Josh throw a few passes deep, and if he connects with one, it would scare the bejesus out of the defense and get them to start dropping deep and back off the run game. Seems like that would open up the offense even if they are low-percentage pass plays. When was the last time Josh went deep on a pass play, and he normally has time in the pocket to throw deep? We also know that Curtis Samuel can run a 4.31, Moore a 4.35, and Shakir a 4.43. More than enough speed to break away. It's all about how the Buffalo offense is schemed and set up. Josh Allen's average depth of target (ADOT) for the 2025 season is 8.03 yards, which ranks 8th in the NFL. This figure reflects a more underneath passing style compared to previous seasons, with recent game-specific ADOTs varying, such as a low of 3.3 yards in one recent game, according to SumerSports and Herd Mentality Strong disagree. Once they realize it was a fluke and he isn't able to connect like that for the rest of the game going forward, it's over. Statistically speaking, even these dog water receivers we have will connect on a deep play here and there. We are absolutely hosed if Beane doesn't find a way to bring in a WR better than the ones we currently have. It sucks, but that's just the reality. Josh knows the quality of the receiving corps he is working with and it's clear that it's impacting him psychologically. If the offense sputters to start the game this week, don't be suprised if we see the wheels come off even more catastrophically than the Atlanta game. Quote
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