Bills 2024 Draft

[The Jokeman]

19 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

Totally agree. Should have Waddle but we need the 2026 1st for some reason more than the 2027.  Just ridiculous. 

Maybe cuz the 2027 draft a weaker class. I haven't studied the drafts in depth but could be. 

[Kirby Jackson]

4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Maybe cuz the 2027 draft a weaker class. I haven't studied the drafts in depth but could be. 

Quite the opposite. As of now, it has potential to be one of the best draft ever. Matt Miller said the other day that the 2027 draft is the best that he’s ever scouted. 

[GunnerBill]

8 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Maybe cuz the 2027 draft a weaker class. I haven't studied the drafts in depth but could be. 

 

It is cos Beane remains confident he will make the 2026 1st round pick. He is less confident he makes the 2027 one. 3 years ago he makes that trade under those circumstances IMO. 

[The Jokeman]

6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

The Bills have a habit of paying role players. That’s not a great strategy for the most part. You should pay stars, some core pieces and then have young players. The Bills have paid guys like Bernard, Knox, Epenesa, Rousseau, Samuel, Bass, etc… It’s not an issue to pay guys with all-pro upside even if it doesn’t work out. You can pay guys like: Oliver, Cook, Benford and Brown. When you start using cap space for a part-time TE, a number 4 WR, “solid” DEs, you put yourself in a tough spot. Those are the cap dollars that get you in trouble. Oliver getting hurt sucks, but when healthy he’s very good. Paying Cook was an easy decision regardless of how hard they wanted it to be. 

We paid Von Miller who to prior his injury here was no role player. Joey Bosa is no role player. When White was extended he was amongst best CB in league.

 

We might not had drafted WRs in years of Beane but traded for Kelvin Benjamin, Corey Coleman (former 1st Round pick), Antonio Brown and Diggs. We also signed guys like John Brown, Coleman Beasley, Emmanuel Sanders, Jamison Crowder, Terrelle Pryor and more. Sure several busted some excelled but again we made efforts to add talented WR other ways to let us draft other positions. Aka building a roster. Obviously looking at our drafting history maybe it not best plan to draft WRs.

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It is cos Beane remains confident he will make the 2026 1st round pick. He is less confident he makes the 2027 one. 3 years ago he makes that trade under those circumstances IMO. 

3 years ago we didn't have as many holes on defense. But I know keep building an offense cuz as great as Josh and offense been in playoffs they can be a few points better but fail to see letting d talent lesser they get more worse than the offense improves and still lose in the playoffs.

[Kelly to Allen]

It depends on if Grable, Van pran & Solomon become starters 

 

I'm much higher on ray Davis than others 

[The Jokeman]

11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Quite the opposite. As of now, it has potential to be one of the best draft ever. Matt Miller said the other day that the 2027 draft is the best that he’s ever scouted. 

Maybe it best for us Dolphins passed on it or maybe they just didn't want to give us a piece cuz the division thing.

[Mikie2times]

5 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

We paid Von Miller who to prior his injury here was no role player. Joey Bosa is no role player. When White was extended he was amongst best CB in league.

 

We might not had drafted WRs in years of Beane but traded for Kelvin Benjamin, Corey Coleman (former 1st Round pick), Antonio Brown and Diggs. We also signed guys like John Brown, Coleman Beasley, Emmanuel Sanders, Jamison Crowder, Terrelle Pryor and more. Sure several busted some excelled but again we made efforts to add talented WR other ways to let us draft other positions. Aka building a roster. Obviously looking at our drafting history maybe it not best plan to draft WRs.

3 years ago we didn't have as many holes on defense. But I know keep building an offense cuz as great as Josh and offense been in playoffs they can be a few points better but fail to see letting d talent lesser they get more worse than the offense improves and still lose in the playoffs.

 

I think the problem is with exception of Bosa, in most instances, we are several years removed from all these decisions. I think our first build was really well done. Especially the bargain Free Agents. We still get a hit on some bargains like Floyd and Bosa <== who is more a bargain than trying to pursue elite talent. Nice hit either way. But we really haven't made attempts at bigger moves in awhile now, preferring to invest in our own picks, many of which are in fact role players. Which then tends to lock in further attempts at growth at these positions. When you are arguably a player or two away it is a bit frustrating that we are so hesitant to add a known commodity. Personally, I think Beane is gun shy over the Diggs and Miller moves, which didn't work out, but I feel were correct. 

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, Mikie2times said:

 

I think the problem is with exception of Bosa, in most instances, we are several years removed from all these decisions. I think our first build was really well done. Especially the bargain Free Agents. We still get a hit on some bargains like Floyd and Bosa <== who is more a bargain than trying to pursue elite talent. Nice hit either way. But we really haven't made attempts at bigger moves in awhile now, preferring to invest in our own picks, many of which are in fact role players. Which then tends to lock in further attempts at growth at these positions. When you are arguably a player or two away it is a bit frustrating that we are so hesitant to add a known commodity. Personally, I think Beane is gun shy over the Diggs and Miller moves, which didn't work out, but I feel were correct. 

I forgot about Floyd a good player who for whatever reason disappeared the second half of his season here. 

[RyanC883]

4 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Maybe cuz the 2027 draft a weaker class. I haven't studied the drafts in depth but could be. 

Fair guess.  But 2027 actually considered stronger class.  Which makes it more maddening.  

[The Jokeman]

Just now, RyanC883 said:

Fair guess.  But 2027 actually considered stronger class.  Which makes it more maddening.  

Maybe that's why we offered it? IDK but honestly I think Miami didn't do it 1) we a division rival 2)The uncertainty of Tyreek Hill's future of the team.