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49 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Sky is Russian ski is polish 🤣

generally true, but not always.  It often depended on the official at Ellis Island registering the name.  In my family Smit become Smith and Mindelefsky became Ziff.  Have never quite figured out the second one.

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20 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

generally true, but not always.  It often depended on the official at Ellis Island registering the name.  In my family Smit become Smith and Mindelefsky became Ziff.  Have never quite figured out the second one.

Totally understand that... But sky is not really a Polish suffix used in Poland 

 

Polish people typically use the suffix "-ski" (or its feminine form "-ska"), not "-sky," because Polish spelling rules do not allow the letter "k" to be followed by a "y"

 

And this has been in use since the high Middle ages so hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years

 

Spelling errors definitely happened at Ellis Island... But sky was not really used in Poland because of their spelling rules but it was in russia, Ukraine and Czech .. sky suffix in Poland usually meant czech or Russian heritage

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Totally understand that... But sky is not really a Polish suffix used in Poland 

 

Polish people typically use the suffix "-ski" (or its feminine form "-ska"), not "-sky," because Polish spelling rules do not allow the letter "k" to be followed by a "y"

 

And this has been in use since the high Middle ages so hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years

 

Spelling errors definitely happened at Ellis Island... But sky was not really used in Poland because of their spelling rules but it was in russia

 

Like I said, you are correct grammatically.  However, I have done a ton of genealogy work over the years and have found many family names Anglicized, shortened, altered, spelling changes and some completely made up.  In my Dad's case his father adopted the name of the Polish Count who owned his village, but they were given a "sky" at Ellis Island.  My great grandfather and his brother came through Ellis Island together, yet somehow ended up with completely different last names.    

 

 

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3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Totally understand that... But sky is not really a Polish suffix used in Poland 

 

Polish people typically use the suffix "-ski" (or its feminine form "-ska"), not "-sky," because Polish spelling rules do not allow the letter "k" to be followed by a "y"

 

And this has been in use since the high Middle ages so hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years

 

Spelling errors definitely happened at Ellis Island... But sky was not really used in Poland because of their spelling rules but it was in russia, Ukraine and Czech .. sky suffix in Poland usually meant czech or Russian heritage

 

 

Funny this got me thinking -  I am polish and my name ends in -cki which I was always told is pronounced 'ski' in polish.  I Googled and it said

 

"The main difference is, ski is the suffix of the “schlachta”, the nobles, by birth. Cki is the suffix given for achievements, for example on battlefield given to non-nobles, not only of polish heritage."

 

So I'll assume my ancestor was some badass who achieved his name on the battlefield :)

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2 hours ago, stevewin said:

Funny this got me thinking -  I am polish and my name ends in -cki which I was always told is pronounced 'ski' in polish.  I Googled and it said

 

"The main difference is, ski is the suffix of the “schlachta”, the nobles, by birth. Cki is the suffix given for achievements, for example on battlefield given to non-nobles, not only of polish heritage."

 

So I'll assume my ancestor was some badass who achieved his name on the battlefield :)

 

 both ski and cky are (szlachta)

 

Ancient Royal polish suffixes before the peasants had any... Later in time the common people added the suffix too , but it was a noble title 

 

Tho rare you could earn your way into szlachta by heroic battlefield deeds 

 

 

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