Seizing control of the means of production

[JDHillFan]

4 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Seems like you've been thinking about Epstein a lot lately, too.  And me.  When you're not being a Hilly Fan.  You're a weird guy. 

Plot: lost

 

sad!

[SectionC3]

1 minute ago, JDHillFan said:

Plot: lost

 

sad!

You must be talking about inflation, electricity costs, and new taxes.  The MAGA way!

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

They have no principles.  Other than they're against the libs.  That's it.  Nothing more, nothing less. 

Delete "exactly" and I agree.  They aren't conservative.  Tariffs, taxes, state ownership of tech companies, censorship of things that piss them off, not consistently law and order.  They're angry populists who, for the moment, lean right on social issues.  A lot of them easily could be Bernie Bros and lean left without really missing a beat on the economic issues.  

Immigration/Border Policy and “woke” probably prevents 90% of them from ever being Bernie Bros.  
 

Old Bernie, before he had to step in line for the DNC on those issues, yes. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

31 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

While I’m not tuned into right wing media, I get that perspective here. If there is so much outrage over Trumps policy, I haven’t seen it expressed here on PPP. So what do you think about government taking ownership of businesses?

My understanding of the Intel arrangement is the government is receiving an equity stake in the company in exchange for financial and other assistance to ensure the ongoing ability of the firm to continue effectively operating. Much like another company or private equity would receive. As a minority shareholder, I don't envision the US government getting into the boardroom and dictating strategy or using its influence and power to elevate Intel to some dominant position in the market. I expect there would be objections, especially from the industry, if this arrangement was "controlling interest" rather than minority ownership. That would be equivalent to the topic title "seizing control of the means of production". This isn't that.

 

 

 

 

[JFKjr]

9 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

You must be talking about inflation, electricity costs, and new taxes.  The MAGA way!

 

Relax! It's the price of flghting "climate change."

 

[SectionC3]

13 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Immigration/Border Policy and “woke” probably prevents 90% of them from ever being Bernie Bros.  
 

Old Bernie, before he had to step in line for the DNC on those issues, yes. 

Truthfully I don't think most people really care about "woke."  It's the economy.  Someone who will make their lives better trumps whatever it is that "woke" entails.  

 

Immigration/border becomes a non-issue the moment a Dem says we're not going to change the border policy, that we're going to expand the visa program to help ag and hospitality, and that we're shutting down Alligator Alcatraz.  

[JDHillFan]

8 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Truthfully I don't think most people really car

You are an all-in fanboy of a party experiencing historic disapproval ratings. What makes you think you can speak for “most people”? Laughable. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

23 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Truthfully I don't think most people really care about "woke."  It's the economy.  Someone who will make their lives better trumps whatever it is that "woke" entails.  

 

Immigration/border becomes a non-issue the moment a Dem says we're not going to change the border policy, that we're going to expand the visa program to help ag and hospitality, and that we're shutting down Alligator Alcatraz.  

I think you're right. Most people don't care about woke. That's why its so unpopular now. It was a construct of the intellectuals running and working in the university systems across the country. Academic environments insulated from the workings and functions of the "real" world. What happened is these academics gradually assumed control of the positions of power inside the democratic party causing their dogma to bleed out into the realm of reality where most of us work and live. Forced on businesses, government, and public affairs. They pretty much destroyed the traditional base and mission of the Dem party. Which gave rise to the Trump phenomena. Now its being pushed back where it came from, the academic fantasy world. If you don't like Trump blame the intellectuals running the party that created the conditions for his rise to power. And here we are. 

Edited August 26 by All_Pro_Bills

[Roundybout]

 

Lmao MAGA Maoism is real 

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, JDHillFan said:

You are an all-in fanboy of a party experiencing historic disapproval ratings. What makes you think you can speak for “most people”? Laughable. 

Who said I spoke for them?  Only you, Hilly Fan. And you want to abolish the department of education.  

[JFKjr]

55 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Lmao MAGA Maoism is real 

 

Enjoy!

 

[Andy1]

The headline say it all. Trump has gone full circle into Mamdani land. 

[Homelander]

26 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

The headline say it all. Trump has gone full circle into Mamdani land. 

 

Close. Trump is white so it's ok.

[JFKjr]

On 8/26/2025 at 8:23 AM, SectionC3 said:

Truthfully I don't think most people really care about "woke."  It's the economy.  Someone who will make their lives better trumps whatever it is that "woke" entails.  

 

Immigration/border becomes a non-issue the moment a Dem says we're not going to change the border policy, that we're going to expand the visa program to help ag and hospitality, and that we're shutting down Alligator Alcatraz.  

 

Interesting that Kamala campaigned on "Woke" instead of the economy.

 

[Homelander]

 

[JFKjr]

9 hours ago, Homelander said:

 

 

If Trump is truly embracing socialism it's time for you Leftnuts to rejoice. Let the rejoicing resound!

 

[Homelander]

On 8/22/2025 at 8:58 PM, Thurmal34 said:

Go capitalism!